To clearify (I hope)
I'm not pointing my finger at anybody! I only think we should agree on a
freedom to write and speculate and have different perspectives - NOT trying
to squeeze out "THE TRUTH", especially when there is no such TRUTH.
I share Walt's opinion that the ATRAC discussion is irrelevant for most
recordists. And whatever Raimund writes, I'm still going to use MD's. (like
Walt)
But that doesn't mean Raimund is wrong.
I could very well be in the same position as Raimund: Just imagine all
debates I have been through since 1982 on the topic "parabols cannot be used
cause they don't have a flat frequency response!" Bullshit debates, full of
hasty opinions and prejudice, making enemies of best friends.
We don't want that! Let Raimund talk! Those of us who are interested, are
fully capable of filtering right and wrong by ourselves.
Raimund is not dangerous! Political correctness is! The world is round! (again)
Klas.
Spontaneously, I just feel I don't want to send any more postings to the
list. I could very well, by accident, become "a new raimund". Or lick the
floor. No thanks.
I know of others feeling the same.
Klas.
At 08:37 2003-08-18 -0300, you wrote:
>I couldn't believe what I was reading when I received this posting. In all
>this discussion, with both sides sticking doggedly to entrenched positions
>(with neither of which I agree), Raimund has maintained a dignified
>attitude and never descended to making personal attacks. It's he who
>deserves a public apology.
>
>Jeremy
>
> At 21:28 17/08/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>All postings like "MD v DAT" "ATRAC DON'T GET NO RESPECT" etc, Raimund
>>tries to monopolize his views and constantly leads to his website! When
>>Walt dropped out a few months ago, this group went to the dogs, lots of
>>questions got unanswered from newbie's, Walt is the only person I know
>>who actually spends the time to give advise, there is not a single
>>person in this group who posts as many messages as Walt! Raimund also
>>dropped out because there was no one else to antagonize, look at the
>>postings, when Walt makes a comment regarding anything to do with what
>>Raimund can get his teeth into, we have a million postings on the same
>>subject!! I take a back seat here and very rarely read because it's
>>mostly poppycock!! This group can not do without Walt, I'm not saying he
>>shouldn't be excluded from constructive argument, but I find most
>>comments arrogant and personal from Raimund. My advice to you Walt is
>>don't bite and do what you do best, I know it's hard when someone
>>antagonistic fires bullets, but hold back, it's not worth the ink!!! (If
>>this was a typewriter)
>>Now I'll shut up before I get into trouble from Doug :-(
>>
>>Martyn
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Walter Knapp
>>Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:47 PM
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: MD v. DAT
>>
>>Dan Dugan wrote:
>> > Walt, you wrote,
>> >
>> >
>> >>I do like to get my info from others than just people selling their
>>own
>> >>recorder and software, as Raimund is.
>> >
>> >
>> > Lighten up, Walt. Ad hominem arguments are rarely helpful to a
>> > discussion. The virtues and vices of perceptual coding are pertinent
>> > to this list, but let's keep it evidence-based.
>>
>>
>>For your information, Raimund announced that he was out to discredit me
>>when he started his attacks on MD. He gave that as his reason for doing
>>so. That made it personal. At the time I left the group for a fair while
>>
>>rather than deal with it. I'm no longer willing to have that stand. I'm
>>owed a public apology.
>>
>>I have looked at Raimund's motives, I find that he sells a competing
>>recorder very much a part of his behavior. He behaves like a car
>>salesman trying to latch onto anything to discredit competing products.
>>
>>He has severely misrepresented MD by the language he uses.
>>
>>He's a trained Hydraulic Engineer. Not electronics or sound.
>>
>>Walt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>>
>>
>>ADVERTISEMENT
>>
>><http://rd.yahoo.com/M=251812.3170658.4537139.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705
>>083663:HM/A=1693353/R=0/SIG=11t71ok4g/*http:/www.netflix.com/Default?mqs
>>o=60178294&partid=3170658> click here
>>
>>
>><http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=251812.3170658.4537139.1261774/D=egrou
>>pmail/S=:HM/A=1693353/rand=458734709>
>>
>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
>><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
>>
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
email:
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
email:
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
|