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Re: Doug rocks at NSS

Subject: Re: Doug rocks at NSS
From: Wild Sanctuary <>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:54:54 -0700
>Ok, I'll bite on this one.  I really enjoyed the debate, but there was
>a bit of friction.  A dichotomy emerged between the more scientific and
>well-informed birders, and those of us with a natural curiosity and
>love for the sounds of nature but little background in biology.  My
>take on this as someone new to this community, is that there has to be
>room for different points of view here.  Martyn asks if you would
>record the chairman of the board without knowing his name, but I've
>recorded many a street musician without knowing his name or why he or
>she plays, without knowing the techniques and theory behind the music,
>but the experience of listening is still valid and in fact very pure.
>I'm a musician and composer of soundscapes, so while I do search out
>the name of a bird when my love of its particular call heightens my
>curiousity, I more often capture sounds for the feeling they elicit,
>for their musicality on the whole.  While this is not science I hope
>that it is art, and that it furthers the cause of preserving the
>natural soundscape.  This may be hard to accept for brilliant folks
>like Doug and Martyn who have such encyclopedic knowledge and so
>obviously love what they do, but I hope they will leave a little wiggle
>room for 'undisciplined' recordists such as myself.... ;-)
>On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 08:54 PM, Martyn Stewart wrote:
>>  I found it a bit strange that as nature recordists, a lot of people
>>  didn't know birds and their calls, simple but true, like I say, you
>>  wouldn't record Frank Sinatra without knowing his name would you?
>>  I think we all benefited from the discussion, there was no real
>>  dynamite
>>  to throw at each other, a bit like handbags at dawn :)
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