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Re: Doug rocks at NSS

Subject: Re: Doug rocks at NSS
From: Clifford Caruthers <>
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:01:56 -0700
Ok, I'll bite on this one.  I really enjoyed the debate, but there was 
a bit of friction.  A dichotomy emerged between the more scientific and 
well-informed birders, and those of us with a natural curiosity and 
love for the sounds of nature but little background in biology.  My 
take on this as someone new to this community, is that there has to be 
room for different points of view here.  Martyn asks if you would 
record the chairman of the board without knowing his name, but I've 
recorded many a street musician without knowing his name or why he or 
she plays, without knowing the techniques and theory behind the music, 
but the experience of listening is still valid and in fact very pure.

I'm a musician and composer of soundscapes, so while I do search out 
the name of a bird when my love of its particular call heightens my 
curiousity, I more often capture sounds for the feeling they elicit, 
for their musicality on the whole.  While this is not science I hope 
that it is art, and that it furthers the cause of preserving the 
natural soundscape.  This may be hard to accept for brilliant folks 
like Doug and Martyn who have such encyclopedic knowledge and so 
obviously love what they do, but I hope they will leave a little wiggle 
room for 'undisciplined' recordists such as myself.... ;-)


On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 08:54 PM, Martyn Stewart wrote:

> I found it a bit strange that as nature recordists, a lot of people
> didn't know birds and their calls, simple but true, like I say, you
> wouldn't record Frank Sinatra without knowing his name would you?
> I think we all benefited from the discussion, there was no real 
> dynamite
> to throw at each other, a bit like handbags at dawn :)

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