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Re: Mourning Dove

Subject: Re: Mourning Dove
From: Martin Heindl <>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:35:22 +0200
Yes, Fernando, I am talking about the same Socorro Dove project which was
started by Juan Martinez and Luis Baptista.
According Juan, the military service on Socorro Island is very cooperative =
to
support the project and helps to eliminate feral cats from the island. In
January of this year, they had a meeting to plan the construction of breedi=
ng
aviaries on Socorro island. Thus, it looks like that re-introduction could =
be
started within the next years.
Juan is concerned about the genetic purity of those SDs kept in the USA. Wi=
th
mean of genetic analyses he found many birds which were descendants of
Socorro/Mourning dove hybrids. Thus, he is especially counting on doves fro=
m
Europe.
We at Birdpark Marlow participate in the European Breeding program of the S=
D. We
keep nine breeding pairs and want to check them for genetic purity. We make=
 a
combined approach by integrating genetic, morphological and bioacoustical
studies.
Genetic analyses should be most reliable.  However, since nobody (to my
knowledge) has processed SD blood before it became extinct, how should one =
know
how a pure SD looks like genetically? Thus, one has to be cautious with the
interpretation of genetic data and base the comparison on more than one
parameter.
We have a master's student who has just started with the recordings of our =
SDs.

Any donations of sound recordings of the Mourning Dove (Zenaida macroura) f=
or
reasons of comparison would be most appreciated. You can be assured that th=
ey
are only used for conservational purposes.

Best thanks
Martin


Fernando Gonz=E1lez-Garc=EDa schrieb:

> Yes Jim, they are talking about Zenaida macroura. If you had some recordi=
ng
> i could do the same like you, donate it.
> According to Howell and Webb (1995), Socorro Dove apparently vanished
> between 1958 and 1978, presumably due to cat predation in conjuntion with
> human settlement of the island in 1957. Viable breeding populations exist=
 in
> USA and Europe aviaries and reintroduction may be possible if introduced
> mammals can be eliminated from Socorro. The song is a hoarse cooing wah-a=
h
> ah ah ah, ahh-ah, quite different from Mourning Dove.
> I know that sound tape exist about the song of Socorro Dove, but i do not
> remeber it it have been recording from captive individuals. A Mexican
> colleague Juan Esteban Martinez together with Luis Baptista (late) and
> another researcher have been trying to start that program
> in Socorro Island but the main problem is the introduced mamals and anoth=
er
> political situations. I hope Dr. Martin Heindl is talking about the same
> reintroduction program.
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Jim Morgan 
> Enviado el: Lunes, 07 de Abril de 2003 08:07 p.m.
> Para: 
> Asunto: Re: [Nature Recordists] Mourning Dove
>
> Is the Mourning Dove you refer to Zenaida macroura?
>
> If so I have several recordings that you can use. For educational and or
> conservation purposes I usually donate the recordings.
>
> Jim Morgan
>
> Prescott Arizona USA
>



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