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Subject: Re: midwest frog song
From: Jeffrey Cozy <>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:36:27 -0500
Rich & Rob,

I have been out with the woodpeckers for a few weeks but no frog
activity yet.
The whoopers are here. I saw 3 in a backroads creek east of La crosse
last week but I didn't have my recording gear with.
If you come through La crosse give me a call.
Jeff Cozy
Bright Ideas Multimedia & Recording
903 So. 4th St.
La crosse, WI 54601
608-784-4332


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>      1. Re: midwest frog song
>           From: Rob Danielson <>
>      2. Elephants and low frequency sound communication
>           From: Syd Curtis <>
>      3. Re: midwest frog song
>           From: "richpeet" <>
>      4. RE: Elephants and low frequency sound communi cation
>           From: "Ranft, Richard" <>
>      5. Re: Elephants and low frequency sound communication
>           From: Wild Sanctuary <>
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>Message: 1
>   Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:52:20 -0500
>   From: Rob Danielson <>
>Subject: Re: midwest frog song
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>Hello Rich and Upper Midwesterners--
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>How far along is your local frog song? I'm planning a trip to Western
>Wisconsin next weekend.
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>Thanks--
>Rob Danielson
>Milwaukee, WI
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>Message: 2
>   Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 23:07:37 +1000
>   From: Syd Curtis <>
>Subject: Elephants and low frequency sound communication
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>Has anyone on Naturerecordists read the book "Silent Thunder: The Hidden
>Voice of Elephants"?  (Or written it? Are you a naturerecordists subscribe=
r,
>Katy Payne?)
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>
>Australian booksellers Clouston & Hall (in Canberra) specialise in acquiri=
ng
>the unsold copies of books that are being remaindered by the publishers an=
d
>selling them at reduced cost.  Of the above, (reduced from A$60 to A$20)
>they write in their April '02 list:
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>    "She spent 12 years in Kenya, Namibia and Zimbabwe studying elephants
>and the way they communicate with powerful, low frequency sound.  She has
>gathered evidence on how elephants express their concern for one another,
>and how these sounds coordinate their behaviour."
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>Does the author, I wonder, cover in any detail, the equipment and techniqu=
e
>for recording and studying these low frequency sounds?
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>TIA
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>Syd Curtis in Brisbane Australia
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>PS   If anyone wishes to buy the book, I can give you the booksellers  ema=
il
>address.  An Australian dollar is presently worth approx. 52 cents US, so
>for someone in the US of A, the greater cost will be packing and shipping
>charges.  "Overseas credit card customers will be charged actual postage."
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>Message: 3
>   Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:32:11 -0000
>   From: "richpeet" <>
>Subject: Re: midwest frog song
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>I recorded night and dawn in Dunn County WI (Western WI) on 4/8/02.
>This was the first day of complete loss of snow cover. No frogs at
>all yet.  Barred Owls just starting and Turkeys in full. Very wet
>this week and things are due to start very shortly.
>I hope to return to southern MN on 4/15 & 4/16 after I finish Sharp-
>tailed and Roughed Grouse farther north this weekend. Feel free to
>call me on the cell phone and I will give you current status. cell
>number is 612-309-6132. Hopefully I will not be in a ravine and out
>of touch.
>
>You may wish to consider Neecedah WI in about a week as the new
>Whoopers are on their way home now and have not been recorded with
>any quality that I have heard yet. Although access is pretty
>restricted. Also multiple Redheaded woodpeckers are possible there
>and they are more than a week ahead of us.
>
>--- In  Rob Danielson <> wrote:
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>>Hello Rich and Upper Midwesterners--
>>
>>How far along is your local frog song? I'm planning a trip to
>>
>Western
>
>>Wisconsin next weekend.
>>
>>Thanks--
>>Rob Danielson
>>Milwaukee, WI
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>Message: 4
>   Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:04:01 +0100
>   From: "Ranft, Richard" <>
>Subject: RE: Elephants and low frequency sound communi cation
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>I have read bits of Katy Payne's. It has almost no information on techniqu=
es
>and equipment.  For this you must read the original research papers, e.g.:
>Langbauer, W. R. (1993). Elephant infrasound: integrating zoo and field
>studies. AAZPA (Am. Assoc Zool Parks Aquariums) Reg Conf Proc.
>Ben-Ari, E. T. (1999). "A throbbing in the air: The discovery of infrasoni=
c
>communication among elephants has given researchers a whole new way of
>hearing things. Bioscience, 49, 353-359." .
>Payne, K. B., W. R. J. Langbauer, et al. (1986). "Infrasonic calls of the
>asian elephant (elephas maximus)." Behav Ecol Sociobiol 18: 297-301.
>=09
>The following is a useful review of technical info.:
>Pye, J. D. (1998). Ultrasound and infrasound. pp 221-249 in Hopp, Owren et
>al, eds. Animal acoustic communication: sound analysis and research method=
s.
>Berlin, Springer-Verlag:
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Syd Curtis 
>>Sent: 12 April 2002 14:08
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>>Subject: [Nature Recordists] Elephants and low frequency sound
>>communication
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>>Has anyone on Naturerecordists read the book "Silent Thunder:
>>The Hidden
>>Voice of Elephants"?  (Or written it? Are you a
>>naturerecordists subscriber,
>>Katy Payne?)
>>
>>Does the author, I wonder, cover in any detail, the equipment
>>and technique
>>for recording and studying these low frequency sounds?
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Syd Curtis in Brisbane Australia
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>Message: 5
>   Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:59:03 -0700
>   From: Wild Sanctuary <>
>Subject: Re: Elephants and low frequency sound communication
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>Didn't know about the book, Syd. But we've been recording ele-vox
>infrasound using a hydrophone coupled to a modified Sony D-10 DAT
>recorder that is pretty good down to 10Hz.
>
>Bernie Krause
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>>Has anyone on Naturerecordists read the book "Silent Thunder: The Hidden
>>Voice of Elephants"?  (Or written it? Are you a naturerecordists subscrib=
er,
>>Katy Payne?)
>>
>>
>>Australian booksellers Clouston & Hall (in Canberra) specialise in acquir=
ing
>>the unsold copies of books that are being remaindered by the publishers a=
nd
>>selling them at reduced cost.  Of the above, (reduced from A$60 to A$20)
>>they write in their April '02 list:
>>
>>    "She spent 12 years in Kenya, Namibia and Zimbabwe studying elephants
>>and the way they communicate with powerful, low frequency sound.  She has
>>gathered evidence on how elephants express their concern for one another,
>>and how these sounds coordinate their behaviour."
>>
>>Does the author, I wonder, cover in any detail, the equipment and techniq=
ue
>>for recording and studying these low frequency sounds?
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Syd Curtis in Brisbane Australia
>>
>>PS   If anyone wishes to buy the book, I can give you the booksellers  em=
ail
>>address.  An Australian dollar is presently worth approx. 52 cents US, so
>>for someone in the US of A, the greater cost will be packing and shipping
>>charges.  "Overseas credit card customers will be charged actual postage.=
"
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