Well yes, now there is the whole story retrieved, about the dead bird, that I referred to, and it dates from nearly 11 years ago. So I don’t feel bad about
forgetting some bits, considering all that I have gone through in that time. I was the “one of the COG people” in this quote:
Anyway, one of the COG people suggest that perhaps my "supposed Goshawk" might in fact be a Pacific Baza.
But I don’t remember this 2014 item at all. It did not make an appearance in the COG ABR.
Philip
From: Canberrabirds [
On Behalf Of Geoffrey Dabb
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June, 2022 10:51 AM
To: Canberrabirds
Subject: [Canberrabirds] FW: FW: Pacific Baza in COG's AOI
Thank you Martin. It does seem this is in the OMOT category - Only a Matter Of Time before we have a confirmed record of this species in the Canberra area. Looking at references to ‘Baza’ in the list archive one finds tantalising snippets,
including this from Philip in 2014
It seems that there are sparse but regular reports from the south coast, while the species is very rare inland of the coast range and so far not confirmed west of the Great Dividing Range.
From: Martin Butterfield <>
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2022 5:49 AM
To: Geoffrey Dabb <>
Cc: Canberrabirds <>
Subject: Re: [Canberrabirds] FW: Pacific Baza in COG's AOI
On reading the responses to Denis's post it appears that I found
an email from the Chatline archive with details of Baza sightings on the South Coast. (Bazzas are far more common.) I have also checked out the location in which the bird was found: it is at the bottom, rather than the top, of Macquarie Pass.
On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 at 05:24, Martin Butterfield <> wrote:
While he lived at Robertson Denis ran a blog on Nature there. He posted about the Baza (actually found near Albion Park) in
this post. WARNING: the post contains images of the dead bird.
On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 at 18:23, Geoffrey Dabb <> wrote:
If the deceased Baza was found in the Robertson area, it is possible that Denis recorded the find in
Eucryphia, the journal of the Robertson Environment Protection Society Inc. Denis was a frequent contributor.
From: Canberrabirds <>
On Behalf Of Philip Veerman
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2022 6:12 PM
To: 'Canberra Birds' <>
Subject: [Canberrabirds] Pacific Baza in COG's AOI
A correspondent has written to me, to fill in some details that I was deficient in my note yesterday.
It was not Brendan, it was (the late) Denis Wilson, located at Robertson, who reported the dead Pacific Baza. Having received that advice, I believe I should correct that part of yesterday’s message.
Philip
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:24 AM Philip Veerman <> wrote:
Interesting. Several years ago one of the sons (Brendan?) of Steve Wilson,
mentioned a dead raptor found on his property he was (is?) at, that is sort
of somewhere near there but sorry I don't know where. I believe he thought
it had died from a collision with house window or car (I don't remember
what). I doubt it was any better than just outside the COG AOI. I don't now
know whether he sent the message to canberra birds or birding aus. He sent a
vague description and up till then, he had thought it was an odd Brown
Goshawk. When I asked him for more information he retrieved the body from
the bin and sent me several photos. Was clearly a Baza. I have done a quick
but unsuccessful search for these details from my long email record.
Philip
-----Original Message-----
From: Canberrabirds
[ On Behalf Of Mark
Clayton via Canberrabirds
Sent: Monday, 6 June, 2022 9:36 AM
To:
Subject: Pacific Baza in COG's AOI
Morning all,
In today's (?) Australian Bird Identification (ABID) page is a photo of
what is an obvious Pacific Baza taken at Tarago sometime in the recent
past. This record I think is within COG's Area of Interest and would be
a new species for the area. I will try to get more details from the
person who uploaded the photo. How will the COG Rarities Committee treat
this record as I am sure there are other COG members who subscribe to
ABID and will have seen the photo. I get a lot of juvenile Pacific Koel
records from this source for Jack Holland when in season and anyone can
join the group.
Mark
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