English bird name poll

[John Harris <>]

This is a bit of a repetition of the discussion about Yellow Rosellas. I am all for keeping the ordinary names that ordinary people can relate to. I spoke about my grandson  and the Yellow Rosella.  I would also like him to see and recognise a Scarlet Honeyeater. He has seen other honeyeaters. If eBird wants to call them Myzomelas, well that is their decision.  All we need is for their system to recognise Scarlet Honeyeater and allow you to choose Scarlet What’s-its-name in the drop down list – or is it drop up?

 

 

 

From: David Rees <>
Date: Friday, 23 March 2018 at 10:49 am
To: Geoffrey Dabb <>, "" <>
Cc: chatline <>
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] English bird name poll

 

Common names are rightly the cultural property of the country/people that use them, so in Australia it the Scarlet Honeyeater. Regardless of what you call them, they are still 'honeyeaters'.  That is why it is OK to have Banded Dotterel (NZ) and  Double-banded Plover when they come here. 

 

NZ is using Maori names for its native species more and more, gets round this issue.  Maybe we should go 'feral' and adopt some indigenous names for Australia's birds. Must be one for this bird.......

 

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Geoffrey Dabb <m("iinet.net.au","gdabb");" target="_blank">> wrote:

The English Names Committee is about to consider the ‘Myzomela issue’.

 

The question to members of this chatline is:  do you prefer ‘Scarlet Honeyeater’ or ‘Scarlet Myzomela’ ?

 

The background is as follows.  ‘Myzomela’ is the name of a genus of small honeyeaters. There are more than 30 species, most outside Australia.  ‘Scarlet Honeyeater’ has been used in Australia, but ‘Scarlet Myzomela’ is used in global lists.  The main reason for choosing ‘Myzomela’ is the need for consistency across all members of the genus.

 

In eBird, under the option ‘English (Australia)’, both ‘Scarlet Honeyeater’ and ‘Scarlet Myzomela’ will work (at present). You will get similar results for the other 2  Australian myzomelas.   However if you want to bring up, for example, the Red Myzomela (a New Guinea species) you must use that name and not ‘Red Honeyeater’.

 

This is a serious attempt to sample birdwatcher opinion through this chatline.  You may reply either to the chatline or to me directly.  A minimum response will be in the form –

 

‘Honeyeater’

 

or

 

‘Myzomela’.

 

However, if you respond, I would also like to know whether you have ever reported an observation of a Myzomela species under any name and  through any form of reporting.

 

At this stage, I shall not discuss the pronunciation of ‘myzomela’.

 

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