To: "'djflotek flotek'" <>, "'Denis Wilson'" <>, "'COG bird discussions'" <>
Subject: yfhes
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:33:04 +1000
I think Chris Davey or Jack Holland put it out that they say "quick", rather than "chip". A description I appreciated. Or that is just an easy way to remember it. I would not describe it as quiet, though. It can often be heard long before the birds are visible, of course that depends on the terrain.
One last comment, about: have any been seen flying along the Murrumbidgee corridor? I think that most of the birds that flew that route were killed in the 2008 fires, in Victoria. I suspect that their populations build up very quickly and there would unlikely be any or much residual impact on birds in the ACT from the birds that flew that route were killed in the 2008 fires, in Victoria. The birds I get in Kambah have surely come along the Murrumbidgee corridor in some way.
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From: djflotek flotek [
Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2014 8:36 PM
To: Denis Wilson; COG bird discussions
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] yfhes

Hi Denis,

Yes, well that was the closest approximation the sound heard as I could offer readily via the Internet.
The 'chip, chip' call is certainly what I have been hearing with all the flocks. And nothing else.

So there you go. Case closed : - )

Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 23:05:16 +1000
To: ;
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] yfhes

Hi DJFlotek

I have just listened to the recording.,
The calls in the first 30 seconds are what I would regard as "feeding calls" or maybe proclaiming territory. Those calls are heard where the birds live in summer, and also when feeding in migration grounds (eg, Banksia heathlands, or coastal forests).

The flight calls on migration are quite different from the calls on that recording.
YFHEs make a quiet "chip, chip" call when migrating.
WNHE make a mewing call, when migrating. 
The calls are quite distinctive (as Philip Veerman has suggested).

Both appear to serve as contact calls, not proclaiming territory (when migrating).

Denis Wilson
Are you amongst Greg Hunt's "increasingly hysterical environmental activists"?
If not, why not?
The Great Barrier Reef decision of 31 January 2014 is a travesty.

"The Nature of Robertson"

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:33 PM, djflotek flotek <> wrote:
Over the last month or so, I've observed hundreds upon hundreds of honey eaters flying over from the Brindabella's (west) to the east in the Kambah area.
I must admit, I've never known 100% whether they were White Naped, Yellow Faced or what -- shows how much I know. You can never get a good look at them when they are flying 10 to 20 metres above you. Anyway, whilst they are flying, they all make the same sound, and it sounds like what starts at 30 seconds in to the audio of the Yellow Faced Honey Eater call at the COG URL here:
I'm assuming yes, but have never bothered to find out. None the less, there's been literally thousands of them flying over for a good while now....

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> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 20:23:20 +1000
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> Perfect weather for the honey-eaters to be migrating; butthere have t bee many reports of them being on the move, except for Jerrabombera suburb, across Lindsay Hansch's home. We went there on Thursday and Friday. Many birds were on the move on Thursday, but not on Friday when the weather was not as good. Have people been checking up on any movements of HEs at Angle Crossing, or Point Hut? have any been seen flying along the Murrumbidgee corridor? I think that most of the birds that flew that route were killed in the 2008 fires, in Victoria.
> On Saturday, Bill and I drove to Warragandra homestead, on Jerrabatgulla Creek, to the north-east of the Big Hole, on the Kain road. Thousands of HEs were flying along the top of the pine trees, from Warragandra, and continuing on due east. We had followed the birds flying along that route for several years, 2002--about 2005. We also picked up migrating HEs at the bottom of the Araluen valley, back in those days. But it takes time to check these places and we did not do that yesterday. it is very exciting to see so many birds flying. Muriel Brookfield alerted us to this migration path, and we are very pleased that she did
> Elizabeth
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