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To: | "'Bob Rusk'" <>, "'Geoffrey Dabb'" <>, <>, "Con Boekel" <> |
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Subject: | Today tonight or explanation of rynchokinesis |
From: | "Philip Veerman" <> |
Date: | Sat, 8 Dec 2012 22:26:35 +1100 |
Sorry
I'm lost at the "Today tonight".
This
is called rynchokinesis and it is potential possible to a limited extent in
most birds, however it is well known in several birds and most particularly
marked in these waders. It is easy to explain if I have a bird's skull in my
hand. Suffice to say the hinge in the jaw of birds is entirely different to
mammals (that is to say it is mammals that are strange). The way birds do this
is the quadrate bone to which the lower jaw is attached, is moved forwards and
the palatine bone slides back and forth, thus enabling the flexible upper
mandible to bend upwards or sometimes they can twist as well to add a sideways
movement. This hinging obviously can only change the shape of the upper
mandible.
See
this prior message from January 2010:
Philip Veerman
24 Castley Circuit
Kambah ACT 2902
02 - 62314041 While surfing the net today I came across a request for info about "rhynchokinesis". For those birdwatchers who have never heard of "rhynchokinesis" and/or have never seen it in action check out this page of Trevor Ford's website: http://www.sunbittern.com/gallery-rhynchokinesis.html"Rhynchokinesis" is the ability of some birds to be able to flex their upper mandible. It is probably most often seen in godwits but I have observed it to some degree or other in several species of shorebirds and have photographed evidence of it a number of times. Keen bird-photographers (probably not photographers who simply take photos with birds in them) should carefully examine all of their shorebird photos (in particular) for evidence of the act - they might be surprised. Bob Inglis Sandstone Point Qld Australia http://users.tpg.com.au/inglisrc/-----Original Message-----From: Bob Rusk
[ Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2012 10:00
PM To: Geoffrey
Dabb; Subject: Re:
[canberrabirds] Today tonight
Hi Geoff !
I've
seen this done more than a couple of times with Bar-tailed Godwits when
"yawning", but when you think about it, the bill would have to be flexible to
enable the bird to feed. It would be virtually impossible to open their bills "
chop stick fashion" for the intake of food when they are immersed in mud or sand
to the full length. Obviously the lower half is flexible and sensitive enough to
open at the extremities to enable them to take "prey" with a tweezer like action
when detected. What do you reckon.
Bob
PS- No differences of opinion will be tolerated
From: Geoffrey Dabb To: Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2012 8:17 PM Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] Today tonight Con
- I have several shots illustrating the curious geometrics of this bird’s
open bill. I do not know what it was doing but Alastair and I speculated
it might have been trying to eject something, and we discussed the upcurve of
the upper mandible, evident to the naked eye. (Alastair
thought he might have read something about that …) Clearly
the bill is surprisingly flexible. The below shot is not edited in
any
material respect. As to what the bird said, well I have had to do a
little translating
there
..
From: Con Boekel
Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2012 7:48 PMTo: Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Today tonight Geoffry I hate to snipe at true art, but how come the top bill curves upwards the bottom bill is straight? regards Con On 8/12/2012 7:36 PM, Geoffrey Dabb wrote: |
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