Osprey

[Scott Ryan <>]

Hi Daniel,

Hope you enjoyed your day at Tid. Great work seeing an Osprey, I believe a pretty rare sighting in the ACT.

Far more experienced birders than me can correct me but I believe the problem with the Magpie Geese is that they are fed so not self sustaining. All

of the birds, to the best of my knowledge are free flyers & are progeny from birds introduced to the area. Historically I believe the only sighting of

MG outside of Tid was not far away at Uriarra, most probably one of our birds.

Scott

P.s please come and say hi next time you're out

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From: Daniel Hoops <>
To: COG list <>
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2012 7:57 PM
Subject: [canberrabirds] Osprey

I've been reading the discussions in the COG e-mail list archives and it seems that the conclusion is that they are not considered wild, but the "evidence" to back it up seems to contradict that.  It seems from the discussions that some, if not all, of the geese are free-flying, and they reproduce and sustain themselves, which I think would make them a self-sustaining population.

Furthermore, we spoke to three wildlife carers at Tid when we were there today, including Scott Ryan who posts to Eremaea (and who may see this, and if so, hopefully speak up).  They said that the birds are not restrained and stay because they are fed.  That would seem to me to be a wild, small population reintroduced to an area where they were formerly found.  Why am I wrong?

Cheers,
Dan

Daniel Hoops
PhD Candidate, Keogh Lab
Research School of Biology
The Australian National University
Room 201, Building 44, Daley Road
Canberra, ACT, 0200
Australia
02 61258057


On 31/03/2012, at 6:16 PM, Margaret Leggoe wrote:

This is a "captive" MG photographed inside the high wire fence at Tidbinbilla.
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These are "wild" MG photographed outside said enclosure an hour later.  Possibly the same birds.

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Take your pick.
Margaret Leggoe

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Hoops [mailto:m("anu.edu.au","daniel.hoops");" href="">]
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2012 5:48 PM
To: COG list
Subject: [canberrabirds] Osprey

On the way back from Tidbinbilla today we saw an osprey over the Cotter Dam.  We were able to see it quite close from below and from the side before it cruised off over the ridge heading west.  I take it that osprey are not common birds in the ACT, so I thought I'd report it here.

P.S. What is the status of the magpie geese in Tidbinbilla?  I take it that they were put there, but they're not restrained by wing clipping like the freckled ducks and brolga.  Does that make them "wild"?

P.P.S. Are there any dollarbirds left in the ACT?  I would really like to see one and I haven't been able to find one!  Any advice?

Cheers,
Dan

Daniel Hoops
PhD Candidate, Keogh Lab
Research School of Biology
The Australian National University
Room 201, Building 44, Daley Road
Canberra, ACT, 0200
Australia
02 61258057



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