Identification Help Sought

Subject: Identification Help Sought
From: "martin butterfield" <>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:26:35 +1100
HANZAB says there hasn't been an accepted record of Pacific Swallow for the HANZAB region.  They also talk of dark chevrons on the undertail coverts of Welcome Swallow.  Interestingly, no illustrations I have been able to find in any guides (or the photos on the COG website) show these clearly.  One of the illustrations in HANZAB hints at the chevrons (as do some of the 645 images - that is their count, I didn't look at them all - of this species on Avibase).
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:44 PM, <> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 11:37:00AM +1100, Jerry Bishop wrote:
> The son of a friend took the following photo recently at Lake Tuggeranong.
> What has got me going are the buff flanks extending down to the bars in the
> undertail coverts.  The only reference that I have which illustrates a
> Swallow with barred undertail coverts is in Michael Morecombe's Field Guide
> to the Birds of Australia, 2000 - Pacific Swallow (Hirundo tahitica).

At first glance, the tail looks too long for Pacific Swallow;
it reminds me of some swallows I saw in FNQ while looking for
Barn Swallows, which I think we decided were younger birds.

This BARC submission gives a lot of detail about the difficulties
in identifying Pacific Swallows:

> If I am right in my identification it might be a first for the ACT.  What do
> others think?

Pacific Swallow is only on the supplementary list in Christidis
and Boles 2008; I don't have my copy here to find out why that
is the case, but from memory there hasn't been a successful
BARC submission as yet.

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