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Raven caching a golfball

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Subject: Raven caching a golfball
From: "Geoffrey Dabb" <>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:17:16 +1000

My little 'American/British Dictionary' gives for the American word: "Table. v -  to set aside a motion rather than discuss it.  This is the exact opposite of the meaning in Britain."  I have seen meetings thrown into confusion.  The idea in the US is that the paper or whatever is put on a side-table.

 

These differences are less stark in Australia, which under the influence of film and television tends to borrow, often inconsistently, from both sources.  An example is 'waders' versus 'shorebirds'.  [Wikipedia:  ‘Waders, called shorebirds in North America (where  “wader” is used to refer to long-legged birds such as storks and herons), are members of the order Charadriiformes.’] 

 

I notice in official publications in Australia ‘shorebirds’ is often preferred these days.  However in inland Canberra local usage is almost invariably ‘waders’.  You rarely hear ‘I can see a shorebird just to the left of that pelican’.       

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Leonard [
Sent: Friday, 18 May 2007 3:24 PM
To: Geoffrey Dabb
Subject: Raven caching a golfball

 

What does 'tabling' a document mean in the US, suppressing it?

 

John Leonard

 

On 5/18/07, Geoffrey Dabb <> wrote:

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> An albatross is a score on a hole that is 3 strokes less than par for the

> hole.  In the US this is more often known as a 'double eagle' (scored by

> Peter Lonard in a recent tournament), being another example of diverging

> usage, although not as bad as 'table (a document)' or 'fulsome', where

> meanings on each side of the Atlantic are the opposite of one another.

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> This reminds me to report that I could find no sign of the Powerful Owl this

> morning.  If it is to be refound Canberra birdwatchers might need to reverse

> their natural tendency to concentrate their numbers at the most specific

> point possible, and fan out a bit.

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> From: Philip Veerman [

> Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2007 2:25 PM

> To: Bill & Jenny Handke;

> Subject: [canberrabirds] Raven caching a golfball

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> Bill's story and theory about possible preferences of golf balls, sort of

> suggests (to me) the thought that what one raven might do, they all would do

> similarly and that they may or may not show preference for a particular

> colour. It ain't necessarily so. Bill's story can also be interpreted that

> the raven could not carry two balls together and preferred to retain the one

> it had already been trying to crack, before starting on a new one. I'd

> suggest there is a lot of randomness in this kind of behaviour. In the long

> term view, round white egg sized objects that are not food or stones are

> something new. The birds may have variable levels of ability to learn but

> still have a long way to go.

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> Is this why golfers use words: birdie, eagle and albatross (whatever that

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> Philip

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