winter is close

Subject: winter is close
From: David McDonald <>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:31:11 +1100 (EST)
Philip I think I can speak for a significant
proportion of list members in requesting that you
desist from making this type of snide, carping,
offensive comment, amounting to a personal attack on a
valued contributor. It is absolutely no business of
yours if Wendy chooses to use the term 'down here' or
'up here' to refer to her home. Lay off, please, and
stick to comments on birds and birding.

Now ... Wendy. Thanks for sharing your observation, it
is an interesting one. The fine book Green, K &
Osborne, W 1994, Wildlife of the Australian
snow-country: a comprehensive guide to alpine fauna,
Reed Books, Chatswood, N.S.W. contains, at pp. 96-7, a
long list of bird species 'considered to be regular
components of the avifauna of the alpine and subalpine
zones of the Australian mountains and subalpine areas
of the higher mountains of Tasmania'. It does not
include the Olive-backed Oriole.

A group of people from COG, led by Chris Davey, have
undertaken a couple of comprehensive bird surveys in
the Thredbo - Mt Kosci area; see Davey, C 2002, 'The
Kosciuszko blitz: a survey of birds from Thredbo to
the summit', in K Green (ed.), Biodiversity in the
Snowy Mountains, Australian Institute of Alpine
Studies, Jindabyne, NSW, pp. 103-12 and Davey, C 2002,
'The Kosciuszko blitz: a survey of birds from Thredbo
to the summit', Canberra Bird Notes, vol. 27, no. 1,
pp. 1-10. We did not record that species during the
survey, and I have never recorded it in the Thredbo

It will be interesting to hear if other list members
have different observations to report. 


--- Philip Veerman <> wrote:
> Wendy,
> Surely you mean "up here", rather than "down here".
> Thedbo is a lot higher,
> even than Canberra, and isn't that the point of
> noting a difference between
> "here" and "there". The north/south issue is hardly
> important. At this time
> of year the Olive-backed Oriole will be passing
> through. They are common
> summer migrants to forest & woodland in SE
> Australia.
> Philip

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