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From: Ian Samson <>
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:58:41 +1000
Nice Terrill. I tried doing this list some years back. I had thought it may be interesting to get it into ebird if I could work them out. I think I have a copy of the journal, a transcript of it used to be in Kiama Library. Some of the letters has some references to stone curlerws haunting the railway surveyors in the 1880s.
Ian Samson

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   1. OBP article (Dave Torr)
   2. Re: Old bird names (calyptorhynchus .)
   3. Re: Old bird names (Gary Wright)
   4. Re: Old bird names (Geoffrey Dabb)
   5. Re: Old bird names (Philip Veerman)
   6. Re: Old bird names
   7. Re: glossy blacks
   8. Re: Old bird names (calyptorhynchus .)
   9. Re: Old bird names (Ross Macfarlane (TPG))
  10. Re: Old bird names (Philip Veerman)


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>From today's Age:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/wire-on-a-bird-tiny-backpack-radios-to-keep-track-of-rarest-parrot-20200427-p54nmx.html
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Hi Terrill

Here are some definite answers from MacDonald's Dictionary of Australian
Bird Names

Blue-billed Swallow = Dusky Woodswallow
Ant Thrush = Noisy Pitta
Blue Parrot = Rainbow Lorikeet (MacDonald has Blue Mountain Parakeet =
Rainbow Lorikeet)

Here are some guesses

White-fronted Flycatcher ? White-fronted Chat
Black-throated Flycatcher ? Black-faced Monarch
Fantailed Flycatcher ? Grey Fantail or Brown Gerygone
Yellow Grass Parrot ? Ground Parrot
Ground Hen ? Lewin's Rail
Green-beaked Paroquet ? King Parrot

You could match her list with an Illawarra list and she which ones she's
missing and try to match them with the odd names (she won't have recent
arrivals like Galah or Crested Pigeon).

cheers

John Leonard


On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:52, Terrill Nordstrom <>
wrote:

> In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret
> Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She
> was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her
> journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This
> list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am
> having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding
> world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird
> names are listed as;
> Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow
> Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue
> Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed
> Slander billed Honeyeater
> Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green
> beaked paroquet.
> Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed
> ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a
> ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region.
> Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 08:14:28 +0930
From: Gary Wright <>
To: Terrill Nordstrom <>
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Hi Terrill

A   place to look could be Graham Pizzey's field guide to birds of
australia if you can get hold of one of the old ones, illustrated by Roy
Doyle where the plates were still in the middle.  There is  a wealth of
alternative names in there , names i grew up with and still love.  finding
your birds could be a long process even if they are there, as naturally
they are not indexed.  With the Illawarra  list and what you have already
you may be able to narrow it down.  For example, there are different names
from what John has provided from McDonald's so the names you are after
could be tucked away in there somewhere.

Gary

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Terrill Nordstrom <>
wrote:

> In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret
> Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She
> was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her
> journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This
> list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am
> having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding
> world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird
> names are listed as;
> Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow
> Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue
> Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed
> Slander billed Honeyeater
> Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green
> beaked paroquet.
> Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed
> ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a
> ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region.
> Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:44:16 +1000
From: "Geoffrey Dabb" <>
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The best reference today on obsolete bird names is Australian Bird Names by Ian Fraser and Jeannie Gray, now available in a second edition, CSIRO Publishing, 2019.  The authors have tried to take account of every published English name used in Australia for an Australian bird species, certainly any used in the sources referred to in suggestions so far. However you will look in vain in F&G for any of the names that are the subject of John Leonard?s guesses.   Unpublished names are something else.  They might have had very limited circulation, perhaps used by only one person.



Geoffrey



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Hi Terrill



A   place to look could be Graham Pizzey's field guide to birds of australia if you can get hold of one of the old ones, illustrated by Roy Doyle where the plates were still in the middle.  There is  a wealth of alternative names in there , names i grew up with and still love.  finding your birds could be a long process even if they are there, as naturally they are not indexed.  With the Illawarra  list and what you have already you may be able to narrow it down.  For example, there are different names from what John has provided from McDonald's so the names you are after could be tucked away in there somewhere.



Gary



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Terrill Nordstrom < <mailto:m("gmail.com","terrillnordstrom1");" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">> > wrote:

In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird names are listed as;

Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow

Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue

Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed

Slander billed Honeyeater

Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green beaked paroquet.

Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region. Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill

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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:35:52 +1000
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
To: "'Gary Wright'" <>, "'Terrill
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Cayley?s ?What bird is that? also has a lot of alternate names. Also Ian Fraser & Jeannie Gray?s book Australian Bird Names. Although in each case, you would need to start by knowing the current name of something you suspect it may be and then see if your unknown alternative is given under that.



About short billed crow, Philippines has 2 species called Large-billed & Slender ?billed Crow. Could be a connection of association of names, I am not imagining those species. Slander is probably slender.



Philip



From: Birding-Aus [ On Behalf Of Gary Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2020 8:44 AM
To: Terrill Nordstrom
Cc:
Subject: Old bird names



Hi Terrill



A   place to look could be Graham Pizzey's field guide to birds of Australia if you can get hold of one of the old ones, illustrated by Roy Doyle where the plates were still in the middle.  There is  a wealth of alternative names in there , names i grew up with and still love.  finding your birds could be a long process even if they are there, as naturally they are not indexed.  With the Illawarra  list and what you have already you may be able to narrow it down.  For example, there are different names from what John has provided from McDonald's so the names you are after could be tucked away in there somewhere.



Gary



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Terrill Nordstrom <> wrote:

In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird names are listed as;

Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow

Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue

Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed

Slander billed Honeyeater

Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green beaked paroquet.

Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region. Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill

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Hi all,

We have a healthy population of Musk Lorikeets here on Lake Macquarie after the recent rains sent the gum blossoms into bloom.

They are intermingling with the Scaly- Breasted, Little and of course Rainbow Lorikeets.

Pretty noisy as well!



Kind Regards,



Rod Mackay



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From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of Gary Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2020 8:44 AM
To: Terrill Nordstrom <>
Cc:
Subject: Old bird names



Hi Terrill



A   place to look could be Graham Pizzey's field guide to birds of australia if you can get hold of one of the old ones, illustrated by Roy Doyle where the plates were still in the middle.  There is  a wealth of alternative names in there , names i grew up with and still love.  finding your birds could be a long process even if they are there, as naturally they are not indexed.  With the Illawarra  list and what you have already you may be able to narrow it down.  For example, there are different names from what John has provided from McDonald's so the names you are after could be tucked away in there somewhere.



Gary



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Terrill Nordstrom < <mailto:m("gmail.com","terrillnordstrom1");" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">> > wrote:

In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird names are listed as;

Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow

Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue

Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed

Slander billed Honeyeater

Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green beaked paroquet.

Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region. Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill

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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:00:10 +1000
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Subject: glossy blacks
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Hi all,

We saw a small flock of Glossy Blacks down in Pinta Bay (Hawkesbury River)
in early March. They hang around the Casuarina Trees down that way.

Love their red tails...



Kind Regards,



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Hi Folks



For anyone in the south coast of NSW area: on the walk to the lighthouse
south from Burri Pt Rd, Gorilla Bay, about half a kilometre in, there was a
party of about 4 glossy black cockatoos feeding in the casurina/banksia
woodland (yesterday). Great birds to see.



Kim





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In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret
Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She
was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her
journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This
list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am
having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding
world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird names
are listed as;

Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow

Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue

Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed

Slander billed Honeyeater

Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green beaked
paroquet.

Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed
ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a
ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region.
Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill



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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:22:11 +1000
From: "calyptorhynchus ." <>
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One more I forgot from MacDonald

Crimson fronted paroquet = Musk Lorikeet

cheers

John L

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:52, Terrill Nordstrom <>
wrote:

> In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret
> Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She
> was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her
> journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This
> list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am
> having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding
> world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird
> names are listed as;
> Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow
> Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue
> Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed
> Slander billed Honeyeater
> Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green
> beaked paroquet.
> Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed
> ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a
> ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region.
> Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 10:24:53 +1000
From: "Ross Macfarlane \(TPG\)" <>
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Back in 1978 when there was a 2-week campout at Tibooburra for the original RAOU bird Atlas, I got to see the grey grasswrens at the Buloo Overflow ? or as the local station occupants knew them: ?budgies?.



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The best reference today on obsolete bird names is Australian Bird Names by Ian Fraser and Jeannie Gray, now available in a second edition, CSIRO Publishing, 2019.  The authors have tried to take account of every published English name used in Australia for an Australian bird species, certainly any used in the sources referred to in suggestions so far. However you will look in vain in F&G for any of the names that are the subject of John Leonard?s guesses.   Unpublished names are something else.  They might have had very limited circulation, perhaps used by only one person.



Geoffrey



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Subject: Old bird names



Hi Terrill



A   place to look could be Graham Pizzey's field guide to birds of australia if you can get hold of one of the old ones, illustrated by Roy Doyle where the plates were still in the middle.  There is  a wealth of alternative names in there , names i grew up with and still love.  finding your birds could be a long process even if they are there, as naturally they are not indexed.  With the Illawarra  list and what you have already you may be able to narrow it down.  For example, there are different names from what John has provided from McDonald's so the names you are after could be tucked away in there somewhere.



Gary



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Terrill Nordstrom < <mailto:m("gmail.com","terrillnordstrom1");" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">> > wrote:

In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird names are listed as;

Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow

Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue

Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed

Slander billed Honeyeater

Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green beaked paroquet.

Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region. Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill

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Before someone corrects me, I was not quite right in my comment below. It is good to correct this with I have noticed that the index to Ian Fraser & Jeannie Gray?s book does include many of the alternate names, so there is an option to begin a search with those odd names. Whether the ones in the below list are included, someone else can look for.



Philip



From: Birding-Aus [ On Behalf Of Philip Veerman     Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2020 9:36 AM    To: 'Gary Wright'; 'Terrill Nordstrom'; 'Birding-Aus'
Subject: Old bird names



Cayley?s ?What bird is that? also has a lot of alternate names. Also Ian Fraser & Jeannie Gray?s book Australian Bird Names. Although in each case, you would need to start by knowing the current name of something you suspect it may be and then see if your unknown alternative is given under that.



About short billed crow, Philippines has 2 species called Large-billed & Slender ?billed Crow. Could be a connection of association of names, I am not imagining those species. Slander is probably slender.



Philip



On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Terrill Nordstrom <> wrote:

In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird names are listed as;

Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow

Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue

Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed

Slander billed Honeyeater

Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green beaked paroquet.

Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region. Thanks and good luck in working them out. 



Regards Terrill

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