Old bird names

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Subject: Old bird names
From: "Geoffrey Dabb" <>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:44:16 +1000

The best reference today on obsolete bird names is Australian Bird Names by Ian Fraser and Jeannie Gray, now available in a second edition, CSIRO Publishing, 2019.  The authors have tried to take account of every published English name used in Australia for an Australian bird species, certainly any used in the sources referred to in suggestions so far. However you will look in vain in F&G for any of the names that are the subject of John Leonard’s guesses.   Unpublished names are something else.  They might have had very limited circulation, perhaps used by only one person.




From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of Gary Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2020 8:44 AM
To: Terrill Nordstrom <>
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Old bird names


Hi Terrill


A   place to look could be Graham Pizzey's field guide to birds of australia if you can get hold of one of the old ones, illustrated by Roy Doyle where the plates were still in the middle.  There is  a wealth of alternative names in there , names i grew up with and still love.  finding your birds could be a long process even if they are there, as naturally they are not indexed.  With the Illawarra  list and what you have already you may be able to narrow it down.  For example, there are different names from what John has provided from McDonald's so the names you are after could be tucked away in there somewhere.




On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Terrill Nordstrom <> wrote:

In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird names are listed as;

Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow

Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue

Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed

Slander billed Honeyeater

Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green beaked paroquet.

Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region. Thanks and good luck in working them out.  Regards Terrill

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