Old bird names

To: "'Birding-Aus'" <>
Subject: Old bird names
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 23:08:48 +1000

Before someone corrects me, I was not quite right in my comment below. It is good to correct this with I have noticed that the index to Ian Fraser & Jeannie Gray’s book does include many of the alternate names, so there is an option to begin a search with those odd names. Whether the ones in the below list are included, someone else can look for.




From: Birding-Aus [ On Behalf Of Philip Veerman     Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2020 9:36 AM    To: 'Gary Wright'; 'Terrill Nordstrom'; 'Birding-Aus'
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Old bird names


Cayley’s “What bird is that” also has a lot of alternate names. Also Ian Fraser & Jeannie Gray’s book Australian Bird Names. Although in each case, you would need to start by knowing the current name of something you suspect it may be and then see if your unknown alternative is given under that.


About short billed crow, Philippines has 2 species called Large-billed & Slender –billed Crow. Could be a connection of association of names, I am not imagining those species. Slander is probably slender.




On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 23:22, Terrill Nordstrom <> wrote:

In my isolation confinement I have been doing some research on Margaret Menzies who lived in the Jamberoo region of N.S.W. from 1839 till 1860. She was a lover of birds and recorded the birds in the area. Unfortunately her journal has been lost and all that has survived is a two page list. This list has only old common names of birds and a number of these names I am having trouble in identifying. I am hoping that someone out in the birding world may have some Idea on which birds she was referring to. The bird names are listed as;

Swallows, Blue billed or spotted Swallow

Thrushes, Ant or short billed crow, Blue

Flycatchers, White fronted, Black throated, Fantailed

Slander billed Honeyeater

Parrots, Blue, buff and yellow grass, Crimson fronted paroquet, Green beaked paroquet.

Pigeons, Emerald amaranth (she had listed green dove also) she also listed ground hen (she also had lyrebird and brush turkey so I am not sure what a ground hen is. All of the birds were recorded in the Illawarra region. Thanks and good luck in working them out. 


Regards Terrill

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