To: Laurie Knight <>
Subject: names
From: Janine Duffy <>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:50:20 +0000
Sorry but you're all discussing something that won't make any difference.

If I post about the stork in the North I have to include both names because my 
audience is mixed. If I call it black-necked stork most of my audience don't 
have a clue what I'm talking about and won't share it or learn from it. If I 
call it Jabiru the wildlife types won't take it seriously.

Jabiru is a beautiful name. It is one of the few Australian birds that is 
immediately recognised and correctly identified by most Aussies. And with the 
appalling low level of wildlife knowledge in this country, let's leave this one 
alone. Efforts would be better spent in educating the mainstream that a Pacific 
Gull is not an albatross, and that real albatrosses are in terrible decline.


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9681 9177 On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:47am, Laurie Knight < 
  > wrote:
No need. Just insert a hyphen (Austral-asian) and the problem is solved.
On 28 Jan 2017, at 7:16 am, Dave Torr <> wrote:

> But only if it gets split, as the (current) species occurs in Asia as 
> well.....
> On 28 January 2017 at 08:04, Laurie Knight <> wrote:
> Call it the Australasian Stork and I’m sure the Jabiru faction will accept 
> the stork nomenclature. It is the only stork species in Australia and would 
> follow the precedent set by the Australasian Bittern ...
> Laurie.
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 8:25 am, Philip Veerman <> wrote:
> > Provided it would be Djinki Honeyeater, rather than just Djinki. Otherwise
> > there would be a name absurdly sticking out as having no connection with
> > anything else, for a bird that is barely distinctive and this makes an index
> > in a book look silly. Names can be distinctive if the animal they are
> > describing is distinctive, thus we can get by with Koala rather than Koala
> > Wombat and Panda rather than Panda Bear.
> >
> > This discussion has been turned upside down, going from "Jabiru". Which has
> > been shown to be a silly name for our bird as it is quite different from a
> > Jabiru and does not have the swollen neck that the Jabiru does have. Some
> > have even suggested that the word Jabiru has historic precedence over
> > Black-necked Stork. I doubt that. Surely the group name Stork is much older
> > (and traditional) than is Jabiru. The Black-necked or even Satin are simply
> > adjectival descriptors to specify which species of stork. How about we
> > reverse it and call it a Uribaj. The argument for retaining Jabiru for our
> > bird (apart from that it is an easy word that sounds nice, something that
> > will jab at a fish that sounds a little be kangarooish) is as pointless as
> > those who will call the wombat a badger.
> >
> > Philip
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
> > casliber0134
> > Sent: Friday, 27 January, 2017 7:50 AM
> > To: Birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] names
> >
> > I must say I have no problem with a local indigenous name (like Djagana)
> > becoming generalised as other local names have become general Australian or
> > wolrd wide words.
> >
> > I like *djinki *for Melithreptus chloropsis rather than Gilbert's
> > honeyeater or western white-naped honeyeater...
> >
> > In the 80s we saw all the wrens become fairywrens and (Turnix) "quails"
> > become buttonquails so some name changes take hold pretty seamlessly.
> >
> > Cas
> >
> >
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