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Willy Fantail

To: Dave Torr <>
Subject: Willy Fantail
From: Andrew Bell <>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 07:34:51 +0000
HBW Alive used Willie Wagtail - which is a relief :)

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> On 19 Jan. 2017, at 4:25 pm, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>
> Can't imagine the name change being widely accepted no matter how logical
> it is!
>
> On 19 Jan 2017 5:12 PM, "Wedderburn Birding" <>
> wrote:
>
>> It's "Willie Fantail" in the Indonesian field guide with the note that an
>> alternative name is Willie Wagtail, which after all is a far better name as
>> it's not a wagtail.
>>
>> The field guide also refers to some new species and proposed splits, such
>> as
>> Sumatran Scops Owl, some of which haven't been accepted by any of the
>> current taxonomies.  Birdtourasia already uses the new names and proposed
>> splits for their checklists.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bruce
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf
>> Of
>> Frank O'Connor
>> Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2017 4:04 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Willy Fantail
>>
>>
>> Was it Willy Fantail or Willie Fantail?
>>
>> There was suspicion that these names in the new Indonesian field guide by
>> James Eaton et al. were what was going to be adopted by HBW / BLI. This has
>> just been released but I don't have access to it. And since BirdLife
>> Australia follows this, that we might be affected. I think BA chose HBW /
>> BLI partly because of their affiliation with BirdLife International and
>> largely because they thought the list would be far more stable than say
>> IOC.
>>
>> There has already been problems with Hooded Dotterel rather than Hooded
>> Plover.
>>
>> The common names go before BA's English Names Committee which I am part of.
>> I cannot see any chance that we would accept Willie (or
>> Willy) Fantail! I think quite a few people on the ENC would go apoplectic!
>> A
>> bit like telling the American to change American Robin to American Thrush.
>>
>> Another that may come up is White-quilled Honeyeater, a split from
>> Blue-faced Honeyeater across northern Australia. Not certain where this
>> name
>> came from. This split hasn't even been proposed for IOC yet.
>>
>>
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