Willy Fantail

To: 'Frank O'Connor' <>, "" <>
Subject: Willy Fantail
From: Wedderburn Birding <>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 06:07:05 +0000
It's "Willie Fantail" in the Indonesian field guide with the note that an
alternative name is Willie Wagtail, which after all is a far better name as
it's not a wagtail.

The field guide also refers to some new species and proposed splits, such as
Sumatran Scops Owl, some of which haven't been accepted by any of the
current taxonomies.  Birdtourasia already uses the new names and proposed
splits for their checklists.


-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
Frank O'Connor
Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2017 4:04 PM
Subject: Willy Fantail

Was it Willy Fantail or Willie Fantail?

There was suspicion that these names in the new Indonesian field guide by
James Eaton et al. were what was going to be adopted by HBW / BLI. This has
just been released but I don't have access to it. And since BirdLife
Australia follows this, that we might be affected. I think BA chose HBW /
BLI partly because of their affiliation with BirdLife International and
largely because they thought the list would be far more stable than say IOC.

There has already been problems with Hooded Dotterel rather than Hooded

The common names go before BA's English Names Committee which I am part of.
I cannot see any chance that we would accept Willie (or
Willy) Fantail! I think quite a few people on the ENC would go apoplectic! A
bit like telling the American to change American Robin to American Thrush.

Another that may come up is White-quilled Honeyeater, a split from
Blue-faced Honeyeater across northern Australia. Not certain where this name
came from. This split hasn't even been proposed for IOC yet.

Frank O'Connor                          Birding WA
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