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Fwd: Optics

To: Michael Hunter <>
Subject: Fwd: Optics
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:12:09 +0000
I believe you have 60 days within which to leave the country and claim the
tax back, which gives plenty of time to test the items out.

On 16 January 2017 at 11:03, Michael Hunter <>
wrote:

> If you buy "Duty Free" in Aus, you need to take them out within a (?) few
> weeks and declare them at customs on exit to get the duty back.
>
> If you take them out on subsequent trips you need not declare them on
> re-entry, but if you are searched and the bins appear unused or have the
> original packaging or otherwise raise Customs suspicions, you could be
> charged. For a legitimate duty paid new pair have a receipt,
>
> If you give a duty-free pair away when overseas, the recipient presumably
> need not declare if they enter or reenter Aus.
>
> If buying overseas duty free (except from a duty free store inside the
> airport) when claiming at the airport you may have to pay "administrative
> charges" which can be up to 50% of the duty, and may take an hour or so in
> the queue  at the airports (particularly UK /Europe) when reclaiming the
> duty which you pay up front with the purchase.
> Avoid most of that by reclaiming by mail using paperwork you get when
> buying.
>
> As Martin suggests, is it worth it , considering the good birding time
> wasted?
>              Cheers
>
>                     Michael
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 16 Jan 2017, at 9:30 am, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>
> A further minor point - if you reclaim the GST on exit you should then
> declare the items on re-entry as Michael said - and there is a limit of
> $900 on the amount you can bring in duty-free, so you could be charged GST
> on the difference between $900 and the price you paid. If travelling with a
> partner you can pool your allowances to get $1800 exempt.
> I have never quite understood the rules - if I do that with an item on one
> trip and then take that item overseas again do I have to re-declare it next
> time I come in?
>
> On 16 January 2017 at 09:09, Martin Butterfield <>
> wrote:
>
>> I was interested in Michael's comments (not that I expect to visit
>> anywhere
>> in the USA in the next 4 years) as the relative pricing seemed to go
>> against my experience.  However he is, to use an appropriate metaphor,
>> right on the money.
>>
>> I did a quick and nasty comparison, picking one shop in SF and one
>> high-end
>> model of binoculars as a test case. I used my favourite Australian
>> purveyor
>> of optical goods and the same model of binoculars as the benchmark.  The
>> SF
>> price was ~$US1950 and the Australian price ~$A2600.  After adjusting for
>> exchange rates, saving GST on the Australian price and adding on SF sales
>> tax it emerged that the Australian price was much (~15%) better.
>>
>> Of course that might reflect the model I chose and the shops I chose.  But
>> I'd certainly suggest doing the research before devoting a chunk of
>> limited
>> time in SF to acquiring the optics over there.
>>
>> One further point is that saving the GST in Australia requires accessing
>> the TRS facility in the airport on departure.  While that is now a lot
>> better than it was, I'd still allow at least an hour between clearing
>> Security and boarding your flight for that process.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> Martin Butterfield
>> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>>
>> On 16 January 2017 at 06:53, Michael Hunter <>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > Begin forwarded message:
>> >
>> > > From: Michael Hunter <>
>> > > Date: 16 January 2017 6:49:43 am AEDT
>> > > To: "" <>
>> > > Cc: 
>> > > Subject: Optics
>> > >
>> > > Try googling " binoculars San Francisco."
>> > > Unfortunately prices in currency adjusted terms are about the same.
>> > > On top of that you pay State sales tax in California.
>> > > You might try buying them tax free in Aus before you leave but would
>> > need to declare them on your departure, and to be legal, on your return
>> if
>> > you personally bring them back into Aus. when they might be recorded on
>> > computer even if you don't .
>> > >
>> > >           Good Luck.  There is some good birding in the vicinity if
>> you
>> > rent a car and drive,  again check Google.
>> > >
>> > >       Cheers.  Michael
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPhone
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