Hmmmmmmmm... well, I guess there are birders who do behave responsibly, and
this includes those who do use bird sound responsibly.
But then, of course, there are idiots who don't use bird sound responsibly -
unfortunately, they call themselves birders too!!
I've seen it all too often myself...
Subject: RE: E H/E
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:29:58 +1000
Thanks so much for your understanding Martin and Elliot.You may know I have a
long association with the eastern bristlebird recovery project.Once The Loop
birds went viral (there existed lots of historical data anyway) those birds
were pestered to death.I defended birders at recovery meetings but then found a
ranger telling me of what he had witnessed, while working away on his veg work
– not good I’m afraid. No one was poaching of course but certainly playing
sound to an inappropriate extent. I f they had sat and waited, those birds
behaved like sparrows and they would not have had to follow then down the
tracks.I will let the Mackay folk know all is well – thank you again. Sheena
From: Elliot Leach
Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2015 1:57 PM
To: martin cachard
Cc: Sheena Gillman;
Subject: Re: E H/E Just respond to the person making the RFI off-list. On 11
June 2015 at 13:50, martin cachard <> wrote:Hi Sheena,
Thanks for your very alarming note - needless to say, I am devastated to hear
of such appalling behaviour.
I guess I was really only interested in starting and continuing this thread for
the benefit of others in their future searches for this severely
I agree fully with Sheena that there should be some discretion shown with any
public on-line comments made on this species given that such threats are
possible, no matter how unlikely they may be to actually eventuate. Therefore I
will not be personally adding to this thread after this post.
What is this world coming to...??!!
Subject: E H/E
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:45:46 +1000 Good morning fine men
I lived for many years in the Whitsundays and spent many a good weekend in
Eungella. I met people looking for E H/E fairly often.
You may not know that not too far back, a couple of people from Europe
(Slavs’?) were found looking for E H/Es to trap. I have been advised local
people are very concerned about the level of detail being provided on the
birding-aus forum, describing exactly where birds are and which trees they
forage in. I expect of course the poachers didn’t capture any – my recollection
was birders were lucky to see them, never mind have one in the hand like Mc
Leays H/Es at the café on Mt Spec. However, I don’t have that detail.
I am copying to the birding-aus admin’, clearly their discretion; I wonder
if this type of dialogue should occur between interested individuals off line
from birding-aus? As much as we all want to see these iconic birds, species
like E H/E have a price on the international market – nothing we do should
place them at risk. Unfortunately logging is occurring in Crediton Forest,
another blow to the integrity of adjacent Eungella NP and the well-being of a
honey eater with such a restricted range.
Best regards to both
(Conservation at BSQ)
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