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To: Judy Leitch <>
Subject: Advertising
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 13:10:34 +1000
Hi Judy,

I wouldn't call it advertising, more of a public service announcement. Good to 
hear the news.

Carl Clifford


> On 18 May 2015, at 12:10 pm, Judy Leitch <> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm not sure as to whether this constitutes 'advertising' - however here
> goes-
> 
> Birds Queensland, in conjunction with Birdlife Southern Queensland (Gold
> Coast branch) will soon be launching our new
> "Bird Places of the Gold Coast' brochure. This brochure will be freely
> available and on the relevant websites.
> 
> Other contributing organisations have been SEQ Catchments, GCCC, Friends of
> Federation Walk and Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary.
> 
> Birds Queensland already has a 'Bird Places of Brisbane' brochure on our
> website
> 
> http://birdsqueensland.org.au/downloads/birdplaces2014.pdf
> 
> 'Places to see birds in Queensland' can be found on this page:-
> 
> http://birdsqueensland.org.au/bird_places.php
> 
> I'm sure other organisations Australia-wide have similar brochures and links
> on their web pages.
> 
> I will keep the list informed when our new Gold Coast brochure is finally
> produced!
> 
> Cheers,
> Judy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
> Denise Goodfellow
> Sent: Monday, 18 May 2015 11:02 AM
> To: Frank O'Connor
> Cc: birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Advertising
> 
> Hi Frank
> 
> Apologies for the delay in commenting.
> 
> I agree with you.  If I wanted to bird elsewhere or (in the past as I’ve
> largely retired) had clients who wished to bird elsewhere I’d contact the
> guides/birders of that area.  I’m not an authority on birds elsewhere in
> Australia - asking local experts, whether they’re formal guides or not,
> makes good sense.  
> 
> And your point about ephemeral lakes and birds turning up unexpectedly is a
> good one.  And that brings me to another reason for  dealing with the locals
> - the rate of habitat change that appears to be occurring in many places.
> For example here in the Top End, development, inappropriate fire regimes,
> and transformer weeds have destroyed habitat, and therefore many traditional
> birding spots have either disappeared or been degraded.   Others are now
> virtually out-of-bounds, for example Leanyer Sewage Ponds.
> 
> Both these reasons are why, when asked by Stephen Shunk, a birding
> acquaintance in the US, to supply information on good birding areas, I went
> straight to Birding Aus.    Here is part of his email.
> 
> "I am the new assistant editor at Nature Travel Network, and we are
> preparing a major launch of a brand new site design very soon. We need
> someone to write us a 250-word summary of birding in Australia, plus a short
> list of key bird species (or families?!) and 3-5 birding hotspots or
> regions. 
> 
> I realize Australia is a big place, but we just need this most basic info to
> get started. Eventually, we could have a page for each of the key birding
> regions, but for now, the overall summary is most important".  
> 
> I don’t wish to write up birds in other areas of Australia - I’m not the
> expert as i’ve already stated.   So thanks to those  few Birding Aussers who
> have already sent me information.  But I would like a lot more.  I can send
> Stephen’s draft overview as a guide for anyone interested.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Denise
> 
> Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
> PO Box 71
> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
> 043 8650 835
> 
> PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.
> 
> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
> Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast’s International  Ecotourism Award,
> 2004.
> 
> With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this continent
> becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.
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>> On 16 May 2015, at 8:18 pm, Frank O'Connor <> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A tricky subject where it certainly has the potential to go too far, but
> this point is difficult to specify.  I think that birding-aus people will
> let them know if they go too far, and I think that Russell monitors this
> very well.
>> 
>> From a personal point of view, I have been happy to read about forthcoming
> tours to Ashmore Reef, Torres Strait Islands, etc.  These tend to be either
> one off tours, or they are tours that while they are commercial don't make
> the operator a profit (my understanding is that George Swann basically gets
> a free trip to Ashmore).  And I am certainly happy to read the trip reports
> after the tours, while people could argue that this is a back door way of
> advertising.
>> 
>> The pelagic trips are advertised, but I don't think anyone could argue
> with that?  Someone is making money on the trip, but generally the trips are
> run at cost and are of interest to many members of birding-aus.
>> 
>> I think the guys in Alice Springs have shown suitable restraint by
> reporting sightings they have seen.  I wouldn't have known there were
> commercial operators in Alice.  I might not make use of them, but if
> overseas people contact me then I am happy to let them know that there is
> someone with excellent local knowledge who can show them around.
>> 
>> Similarly I have been happy in the past with reports by Denise Goodfellow
> for the NT, or Kingfisher Park in Far North Queensland, or tours to Cocos
> and Christmas Islands, etc.
>> 
>> I know that I would be interested if someone was organising a tour to say
> Neale Junction in WA to look for Scarlet-chested Parrot, Striated (Sandhill)
> Grasswren, etc.  Or maybe a tour to NSW or Qld  to look for Striated (Rusty)
> Grasswren.
>> 
>> At BirdLife Western Australia we face some dilemmas with our eNews.  We
> include reports of a lake being full this year, which is useful for people
> thinking of visiting that area, but it is clear that this benefits the
> station as people will be paying to stay there.  Or reports of Ground
> Cuckoo-shrike will benefit the person whose property they are on, as people
> will probably need to stay there.
>> 
>> 
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Frank O'Connor                          Birding WA
> http://birdingwa.iinet.net.au
>> Phone : (08) 9386 5694               Email :  
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