Judy, the requirement to put "ADVERTISEMENT" in the subject line only applies
to commercial advertising. Advertising things like your brochure for non
commercial organisations has always been allowed.
Peter Shute
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus
> On Behalf Of Judy Leitch
> Sent: Monday, 18 May 2015 12:10 PM
> To: 'birding-aus'
> Cc: 'Denise Goodfellow'
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Advertising
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm not sure as to whether this constitutes 'advertising' -
> however here
> goes-
>
> Birds Queensland, in conjunction with Birdlife Southern
> Queensland (Gold Coast branch) will soon be launching our new
> "Bird Places of the Gold Coast' brochure. This brochure will
> be freely available and on the relevant websites.
>
> Other contributing organisations have been SEQ Catchments,
> GCCC, Friends of Federation Walk and Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary.
>
> Birds Queensland already has a 'Bird Places of Brisbane'
> brochure on our website
>
> http://birdsqueensland.org.au/downloads/birdplaces2014.pdf
>
> 'Places to see birds in Queensland' can be found on this page:-
>
> http://birdsqueensland.org.au/bird_places.php
>
> I'm sure other organisations Australia-wide have similar
> brochures and links on their web pages.
>
> I will keep the list informed when our new Gold Coast
> brochure is finally produced!
>
> Cheers,
> Judy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus
> On Behalf Of
> Denise Goodfellow
> Sent: Monday, 18 May 2015 11:02 AM
> To: Frank O'Connor
> Cc: birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Advertising
>
> Hi Frank
>
> Apologies for the delay in commenting.
>
> I agree with you. If I wanted to bird elsewhere or (in the
> past as I've largely retired) had clients who wished to bird
> elsewhere I'd contact the guides/birders of that area. I'm
> not an authority on birds elsewhere in Australia - asking
> local experts, whether they're formal guides or not, makes
> good sense.
>
> And your point about ephemeral lakes and birds turning up
> unexpectedly is a good one. And that brings me to another
> reason for dealing with the locals
> - the rate of habitat change that appears to be occurring in
> many places.
> For example here in the Top End, development, inappropriate
> fire regimes, and transformer weeds have destroyed habitat,
> and therefore many traditional
> birding spots have either disappeared or been degraded.
> Others are now
> virtually out-of-bounds, for example Leanyer Sewage Ponds.
>
> Both these reasons are why, when asked by Stephen Shunk, a
> birding acquaintance in the US, to supply information on good
> birding areas, I went
> straight to Birding Aus. Here is part of his email.
>
> "I am the new assistant editor at Nature Travel Network, and
> we are preparing a major launch of a brand new site design
> very soon. We need someone to write us a 250-word summary of
> birding in Australia, plus a short list of key bird species
> (or families?!) and 3-5 birding hotspots or regions.
>
> I realize Australia is a big place, but we just need this
> most basic info to get started. Eventually, we could have a
> page for each of the key birding regions, but for now, the
> overall summary is most important".
>
> I don't wish to write up birds in other areas of Australia -
> I'm not the
> expert as i've already stated. So thanks to those few
> Birding Aussers who
> have already sent me information. But I would like a lot
> more. I can send Stephen's draft overview as a guide for
> anyone interested.
>
> Thanks
>
> Denise
>
> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
> PO Box 71
> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
> 043 8650 835
>
> PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.
>
> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
> Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast's International
> Ecotourism Award, 2004.
>
> With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral
> this continent becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.
>
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> On 16 May 2015, at 8:18 pm, Frank O'Connor
> <> wrote:
>
> >
> > A tricky subject where it certainly has the potential to go
> too far,
> > but
> this point is difficult to specify. I think that birding-aus
> people will let them know if they go too far, and I think
> that Russell monitors this very well.
> >
> > From a personal point of view, I have been happy to read about
> > forthcoming
> tours to Ashmore Reef, Torres Strait Islands, etc. These
> tend to be either one off tours, or they are tours that while
> they are commercial don't make the operator a profit (my
> understanding is that George Swann basically gets a free trip
> to Ashmore). And I am certainly happy to read the trip
> reports after the tours, while people could argue that this
> is a back door way of advertising.
> >
> > The pelagic trips are advertised, but I don't think anyone
> could argue
> with that? Someone is making money on the trip, but
> generally the trips are run at cost and are of interest to
> many members of birding-aus.
> >
> > I think the guys in Alice Springs have shown suitable restraint by
> reporting sightings they have seen. I wouldn't have known
> there were commercial operators in Alice. I might not make
> use of them, but if overseas people contact me then I am
> happy to let them know that there is someone with excellent
> local knowledge who can show them around.
> >
> > Similarly I have been happy in the past with reports by Denise
> > Goodfellow
> for the NT, or Kingfisher Park in Far North Queensland, or
> tours to Cocos and Christmas Islands, etc.
> >
> > I know that I would be interested if someone was organising
> a tour to
> > say
> Neale Junction in WA to look for Scarlet-chested Parrot,
> Striated (Sandhill) Grasswren, etc. Or maybe a tour to NSW
> or Qld to look for Striated (Rusty) Grasswren.
> >
> > At BirdLife Western Australia we face some dilemmas with
> our eNews.
> > We
> include reports of a lake being full this year, which is
> useful for people thinking of visiting that area, but it is
> clear that this benefits the station as people will be paying
> to stay there. Or reports of Ground Cuckoo-shrike will
> benefit the person whose property they are on, as people will
> probably need to stay there.
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Frank O'Connor Birding WA
> http://birdingwa.iinet.net.au
> > Phone : (08) 9386 5694 Email :
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