Flycatcher ID help

To: Graeme Chapman <>
Subject: Flycatcher ID help
From: Joseph Morlan <>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 01:27:18 -0800
I have received helpful comment on this bird from a number of people with
the conclusion that this is an immature Leaden Flycatcher (Myiagra rubecula
concinna) with the tail formula visible in the flight shot at:

Key features:

1. Square tail, evident in the flight shot showing the bird flying away.
The central rectrices are missing, but the outermost tail feather r6 is
only marginally shorter than r5.  
2. Dark lores. Female Broad-billed have pale lores and male Broad-bill has
a deeper orange throat.
3. Whitish fringed secondary coverts. Broad-billed has rusty-brownish
4. Bulging forehead. Broad-billed has more sloping forehead profile.

The tail formula is probably the most important feature. The pale bill base
indicates an immature.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:45:58 +1100, Graeme Chapman
<> wrote:

>Hello  Joseph and others,
>Thank you Chris for pointing out my error - a senior moment - as the pics on 
>my website clearly show, the white (or partially white, HANZAB) tail feathers 
>are the outer ones in female and young Broad-billed.
>I don't think there's much doubt about it being a young bird - the gape is 
>heavily tumoured. The rectrices appear pointed as well.
>Picture #1 gives me the impression that the rectrices are of even length - 
>there is a suggestion of white at the outer tips in both pics # 1 and #2 but I 
>would expect to see more white in a young Broad-billed.
>So there is a possibility that it could be a Broad-billed but one thing is 
>clear, we'll never know for sure because the pictures are not good enough to 
>be diagnostic.
>Graeme Chapman
Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA
"It turns out we're very good at not seeing things" - Jack Hitt

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