BARC Checklist

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Subject: BARC Checklist
From: Kev Lobotomi <>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 23:07:12 +1000
My take on the list it is very simple. It would be nice to have a standard list 
so everyone can compare. I'm nowhere near the crazy twitcher I used to be years 
ago, but knowing what it's like to be crazy on this list thing the most useful 
thing is to have something that everyone can use. I guess we can all use 
different things & modify them to deal with our different choices, but in my 
opinion it is better to have something that we disagree with, but is a 
standard, than no standard at all. No matter what happens there are always 
going to be splits & lumpings that we don't agree with personally. And, 
although we all like to think we know what's a species, & what isn't, very few 
of us (myself included) are taxonomists. My answer to that problem is when I'm 
birdwatching is to look at everything when I'm out in a place that I don't 
usually go into. I've always enjoyed looking at geographic variation anyway. I 
guess the standard now is the BARC list? I think I get about a dozen ticks out 
of that. Doesn't feel as satisfying at going out & looking at them 
though!-Kevin Bartram
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 22:47:43 +1000
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] BARC Checklist
> Not sure there is much point in stressing about it.  The Australian Birding 
> fraternity have always used a variety of taxonomies, for different reasons 
> and with different purposes.  The closest we have come to a "unified" list 
> was when many followed C&B (while it was current).  As that is no longer 
> being updated, it will become of less and less relevance, and others have 
> ably pointed out many of the competing considerations to take into account in 
> 'adopting' another.  I suspect we will probably never come as close again to 
> having a 'standard' taxonomy, and most will just adopt that which works best 
> for their purposes, and get used to 'translating' across lists.
> Life is too short - and there are too many birds to enjoy - to stress about 
> it.
> Just my thoughts.
> Cheers,
> John Tongue
> Ulverstone, Tas.
> On 02/07/2013, at 7:06 PM, Robert Inglis wrote:
> > Thank you David James.
> > 
> > I have been sitting here (as it were) becoming more and more agitated, 
> > frantic, despairing, confused, annoyed, thinking of a large brandy as I 
> > have been reading all these postings about the various taxonomies that 
> > various birders are using for their own esoteric reasons while, at the same 
> > time, wondering just what Birdlife Australia is thinking.
> > I wait with bated (which my much loved and ancient Chambers Twentieth 
> > Century Dictionary tells me is the same as “Abated” meaning “to lessen; to 
> > deduct from; to mitigate; to put an end to [I like that one], do away with, 
> > as of an action or a nuisance, to render null, as a writ”)  breath to see 
> > the “explanation to the introduction about why BARC uses the IOC checklist 
> > for its purposes”.
> > 
> > I am also trying to visualise those hardy and much admired soles who are 
> > currently working on (at least, I am hoping they are still working on) new 
> > “Australian Bird Field Guides” but wondering which taxonomy they should be 
> > using. Poor soles. My heart goes out to you.
> > 
> > I could go on but ............
> > 
> > Bob Inglis
> > Sandstone Point
> > Queensland
> > 
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