Carl,
         I don't know what expertise you have in rounding up wild goats, but 
they pretty easy, all you need is a good dog, a motor bike and mobile yards, 
preferably near a waterhole (personal information from my nephew, a 
professional goat herder) and with that you can make a good living.
That's why goats in NSW will never be eradicated. The economical factor and 
the fact that many  leasees in the western Division are now turning to 
goats, rather then sheep for an income. The only hope is for the economic 
value to be removed, which I can't see happening, at least in my life time. 
This also applies to pig's and now possibly the River Rabbit (carp). 
Whenever you put and economic value on anything it changes its complexion. 
Though I would love to see the whole three and a few more species, 
eradicated I don't see it happening.
 The once or twice a year shoot by NPWS (or whatever there new title is ) has 
little impact, whilst ever they are surrounded with properties full of 
goats, amateur shooters will have a negotiable impact if not cause further 
problems, like fire (especially in the mallee country).
 As far as Goats and Cats I'd take the goat anytime, corning a feral cats is 
the equivalent of taking you live in your hands. Feral cats do not act like 
you cute pussy cat you have at home.
 I think average Australian is aware of the problem, but its one of those 
problems that individuals feels helpless about,  after all our track record 
is not to good in controlling pests. Remember the dingo fences, rabbit 
fences, tick control etc etc. As far as Foot and Mouth and other diseases it 
only a matter of time.
But I see all of this as a side issue to my original e-mail.
Neville Schrader
 -----Original Message----- 
From: Carl Clifford
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Neville Schrader OAM
Cc: Briding -Aus ; Dick Cooper ; Mark Clayton
 Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Shooting in Birdlife controlled conservation 
areas
Neville,
 NSW National Parks use professional shooters to control feral animals, such 
as pigs, goats and deer. The areas the shooters operate in are closed off 
when culling is in progress. Shooting is usually carried out where culling 
methods such as baiting or trapping are impractical.
 Trapping can be effective in some situations, but is expensive and animals 
quickly learn to avoid traps. It is usually only cost effective when the 
trapped animals can be on-sold to the live export or abattoir trade.
Rounding up feral goats? Rounding up cats is somewhat easier.
 It is a pity that the average Australian does not regard feral animal 
control more seriously. When Foot and Mouth Disease eventually enters 
Australia (and it will eventually, despite the best efforts of AQIS), we can 
kiss goodbye to most of our meat and many other agricultural product export 
trades.
Carl Clifford
On 02/03/2013, at 10:29, Neville Schrader OAM <> wrote:
 
 It appears to me to be a pretty hard argument we have in NSW to stop 
shooting in National Parks, when we see statement like this in the last 
Birdlife e- News, in relation to Gluepot Reserve, i.e six members of the 
sporting shooters visited for four days, shooting 74 goats, a cat and a 
fox, and they also trapped two foxes. Whilst I am aware that other states 
allow shooting in Conservation areas, I don’t see why Birdlife should 
support such. Trapping I have no problem with or rounding up the goats and 
selling.
 The question now is, who controls the policy of operations and management 
in Gluepot and Birdlife.
In disappointment
Neville Schrader
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