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Brown Songlarks and Fences

To: Ed Williams <>
Subject: Brown Songlarks and Fences
From: Chris Charles <>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 06:10:20 +1100
A birder overnights in the Round Hill 'wheat field'?
We may need more birders prepared to overnight if we want to keep the shooters 
out.

Chris Charles
 


On 19/02/2013, at 11:14 AM, Ed Williams <> wrote:

> Yep - there are always a few and they can even alienate natural birding 
> allies...
> 
> I remember talking to the ranger at Round Hill a couple of years back who 
> thanked us for parking on the main road and walking up one of the tracks.
> 
> He told me about some other birders who had illegally set up camp in the 
> "Wheat Field" there.
> 
> When they were asked to move on, the birder in question picked up his bins to 
> look at something flying past rather than even acknowledging that the ranger 
> was speaking to him...
> 
> Ah well....
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> Ed Williams
> 
> On 19/02/2013, at 10:35 AM, "Tony Russel" <> wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Denise on this. It's the behaviour of a few frantic and
>> irresponsible birders that has caused many of the otherwise good birding
>> locations to be closed off.  I don't blame the landowners or the govt., I'd
>> close my land too if there were too many thoughtless intruders - and I've
>> had some too, just wandering through without so much as a by-your-leave.
>> Birders, bushwalkers, shooters  - and they don't even apologise when
>> apprehended.
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 
>>  On Behalf Of Denise
>> Goodfellow
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 8:08 AM
>> To: Chris Shaw; Birding Aus
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Brown Songlarks and Fences
>> 
>> Hi Chris
>> That's what's happened at sewage ponds in Palmerston and Darwin, and after
>> nearly thirty years of going there (and I was largely responsible for the
>> Leanyer Ponds making birders welcome in the first place) it's no longer
>> tenable for me to take international birders there.
>> 
>> A major reason according to my contacts in management was the behaviour of a
>> few birders who broke the rules.  That's why birders searching for Red
>> Goshawk at Mataranka are not particularly welcome any more.
>> 
>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>> 1/7 Songlark Street,
>> Bakewell, NT 0832
>> 043 8650 835
>> 
>> P
>> 
>> 
>> On 18/2/13 9:16 PM, "Chris Shaw" <> wrote:
>> 
>>> One of the biggest annoyances to a bird watcher is the number of 
>>> barriers put up to keep them away; whether it's closing off tracks, 
>>> national parks, water treatment plants, salt works or whatever. I 
>>> think it's a national pastime in Australia telling other people what 
>>> to do and what to thinkŠ what do you think? When I go bird watching in 
>>> Norway and Scotland in particular they have laws allowing access to 
>>> the public to all land other than what is not in the public safety. 
>>> And many other places in the world seem to be the same. I'm wondering 
>>> whether we are the most rigidly bureaucratic society in the world; and 
>>> one that wishes more than is normal to enforce our own opinions and values
>> on others?
>>> 
>>> Anyway all this muttering is because I took some photos of a Brown 
>>> Songlark sitting on a fence around an airportŠ justifiable fence I 
>>> might addŠ but birds have a great freedom to go where they pleaseŠ not us
>> it seems.
>>> 
>>> Anyway the Brown Songlarks are on my blog.
>>> 
>>> Chris Shaw
>>> 
>>> Mobile 0409 675912
>>> 
>>> My blog - "Top Birds and Everyfing" can be found on the following link
>>> 
>>> http://topbirdsandeveryfing.typepad.com/top-birds-everyfing/
>>> 
>>> ³Failure defeats losers, failure inspires winners.² ­ Robert T. 
>>> Kiyosaki
>>> 
>>> 
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