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Night Parrot again

To: ed williams <>, andrew stafford <>
Subject: Night Parrot again
From: robert morris <>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:36:26 +0000
The only things I would point out are:
1) The Tasmanian Tiger is actually declared extinct. The Night Parrot is almost 
certainly not extinct.2) We know quite a lot about Tasmanian Tigers. We know 
very little about Nigh Parrots.
It is an analogy which the general public will be able to understand (and 
perhaps be misled by?).....
Rob Morris 

 

Brisbane, Australia 


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> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:41:08 +1000
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Night Parrot again
> 
> Andrew, Richard and BAers,
> 
> From my point of view it makes perfect sense for an article about night 
> parrots to quote both the Tassie Tiger (the most well known "lost species") 
> and budgie (the closest similar well-known bird).  Both pieces are for a 
> popular non- birding readership and address this perfectly.
> 
> In this case I would suspect this is a case of "editorial convergent 
> evolution" as it makes complete sense and logic.
> 
> I also don't think BA as a forum should be used for accusations of plagiarism 
> either.
> 
> Cheers all,
> 
> Ed
> 
> Ed Williams
> Kingsville, VIC
> 
> On 06/06/2012, at 9:52 AM, "Andrew Stafford" <> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> > I find your email both funny and mildly offensive at once - specifically 
> > your assertion that I've plagiarised John Huxley's Brisbane Times report 
> > from 2007. Mildly offensive because I was under the strong impression at 
> > the time that Huxley had, in fact, come dangerously close to plagiarising 
> > MY original report on the 2006 Night Parrot specimen in the June 2007 issue 
> > of Wingspan! (Which, due to the quarterly publication's long lead time, was 
> > written probably in April-May of that year.) My opening paragraph for that 
> > story reads:
> > 
> > "On Saturday 17 September 2006, Robert "Shorty" Cupitt, the ranger-on-duty 
> > of Diamantina National Park in south-west Queensland, was grading an 
> > interior road of the reserve when the blade of his vehicle exposed the 
> > yellow underbelly of a bird he didn't recognise."
> > 
> > Compare that to Huxley's opening paragraph and judge for yourself:
> > 
> > "THE park ranger Robert "Shorty" Cupitt was repairing a section of track in 
> > a remote part of Diamantina National Park, Queensland, when the blade of 
> > his grader exposed the headless corpse of a bird he could not immediately 
> > identify. The yellow-bellied bird..."
> > 
> > The issue back then was that neither Birds Australia nor the National Night 
> > Parrot network were informed about the discovery of the 2006 bird by the 
> > Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service - contrary to its own management 
> > plans for the species. I'd suggest you read the rest of the original report 
> > before you start throwing (misspelt) accusations of hypocrisy around...
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Austrlian birding friends. I am research more around the Night Parrot. And 
> > I 
> > find this on the www.
> > 
> > http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/twitchers-cry-foul-in-case-of-the-deceased-parrot/2007/06/22/1182019367467.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It is funny no?
> > 
> > Why ?
> > 
> > Well the Age writer has copied same ideas - 'Tasmanian Tiger' and 'Budgie' 
> > from Brisbane Times. 'Dubbed the Tasmanian tiger of the skies, this small, 
> > drab, budgerigar-like bird has fascinated scientists' Naughty naughty! Ha 
> > ha ha 
> > 
> > And more even funny - Birds Australia keep this record secret to hide it 
> > from 
> > birdwatchers 'hunting the bird down.' 
> > 
> > But at 2007 they told us all when dead bird found in Queensland like 
> > chicken 
> > with no head:
> > 
> > Mike Weston, research and conservation manager at Birds Australia, says the 
> > "incredible secrecy" prevented a concerted inquiry that might have yielded 
> > clues to the birds' habits.
> > "The way it was handled was most disappointing."
> > 
> > Ha ha ha - I translate from www it is called 'hypocpacy' No?
> > 
> > If may be proper bird watcher go to look and see - may be now we now no 
> > more 
> > about the Night Parrot? NO? May be too many chickens run with no heads and 
> > hiding at their desk?
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
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