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Duck shooting season- There's an identification test?

To: 'Bill Stent' <>, 'Alistair McKeough' <>
Subject: Duck shooting season- There's an identification test?
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:04:09 +1100
Good point. I assume retesting has been suggested, but is too hot an issue for 
any politician to consider. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Stent  
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 8:27 AM
> To: Alistair McKeough
> Cc: Peter Shute; Birding Australia
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting season- There's an 
> identification test?
> 
> My daughter is 12. She can't remember where she left her shoes last
> night, much less the underwing pattern of a flying duck she saw two
> years ago!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Alistair McKeough
> <> wrote:
> > I think you can't shoot until 12, but you can get the ID 
> test nailed a
> > couple of years earlier.
> >
> > On 7 February 2012 08:13, Bill Stent <> wrote:
> >>
> >> I understand that psychological studies show that males 
> are incapable
> >> of rational judgement until they're about 23, females 
> younger. This is
> >> one reason why young males kill themselves in cars so often.
> >>
> >> But a ten year old with a shotgun sounds like a script for a horror
> >> movie. This is less than half the age of reliable rationality.
> >>
> >> Are these people serious?
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Peter Shute 
> <> wrote:
> >> > Yes, the younger the better as always. The page you 
> referred to earlier
> >> > says 12 is the minimum, so perhaps there's some 
> confusion between states, or
> >> > perhaps it's changed recently.
> >> >
> >> > Peter Shute
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Alistair McKeough 
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 7:29 AM
> >> > To: Peter Shute
> >> > Cc: Dave Torr; Dimitris Bertzeletos; Birding Australia
> >> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting season- There's an
> >> > identification test?
> >> >
> >> > Field & Game is encouraging those over 10 to gear up now 
> by passing the
> >> > test:
> >> >
> >> > " If you are over the age of 10 years and you have an interest in
> >> > [killing] waterfowl, you may obtain your waterfowl identification
> >> > certificate right now. Once you have the certificate, 
> keep it safe and
> >> > record your registration number where it can be found 
> quite easily. In
> >> > recent years changes to the way WIT's are recorded have 
> created some
> >> > problems for hunters seeking a current duck hunting 
> license in some areas."
> >> >
> >> > Nothing like encouraging people to gear up as early as 
> 10 for when they
> >> > can start shooting live animals for sport.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 7 February 2012 07:24, Peter Shute
> >> > <<>> wrote:
> >> > When the test first came in, people I know who had been 
> duck shooting
> >> > for years had to buy the training video in order to be 
> good enough to pass
> >> > the test. I would imagine therefore that they're a lot 
> better at id in
> >> > flight than they were before, which is a good thing.
> >> >
> >> > The video is called "Ducks in Sight". I've got a vague 
> memory of seeing
> >> > it for sale at the BOCA shop, so I get the impression 
> it's useful for
> >> > learning id.
> >> >
> >> > I don't think they're required to ever sit the test 
> again, so just like
> >> > a drivers' licence, there's nothing stopping people 
> who've forgotten
> >> > everything they learned from shooting/driving 
> regardless. But the tests do
> >> > stop those who can't be bothered learning id from ever 
> getting a licence, so
> >> > I imagine there are far less illegal species shot by 
> mistake than there were
> >> > before.
> >> >
> >> > How many are shot anyway, I don't know. Those collected 
> by volunteers
> >> > are probably a small percentage of the total, given how 
> many shooters use
> >> > private wetlands. I'm guessing enforcement is the 
> problem now, not id
> >> > skills.
> >> >
> >> > Peter Shute
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From:
> >> >> 
> <birding-aus-bou
> >
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> <mailto:birding
> >]
> >> >> On Behalf Of
> >> >> Dave Torr
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 6:34 AM
> >> >> To: Dimitris Bertzeletos
> >> >> Cc: Birding Australia
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting season- There's an
> >> >> identification test?
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyone who wants to drive a car has to pass a test, but the
> >> >> evidence is
> >> >> that it doesn't help some people drive safely. I assume the
> >> >> duck shooting
> >> >> test is likely to be even less of a success!
> >> >>
> >> >> On 7 February 2012 02:35, Dimitris Bertzeletos
> >> >> 
> <<>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hello all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've just learned that there's an identification test that
> >> >> waterfowlers
> >> >> > need to pass before they can shoot in the field. Anyone
> >> >> have any idea how
> >> >> > stringent this is? Evidence suggests not stringent enough...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > D.
> >> >> >
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