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Duck shooting season- There's an identification test?

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Duck shooting season- There's an identification test?
From: Bill Stent <>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:13:34 +1100
I understand that psychological studies show that males are incapable
of rational judgement until they're about 23, females younger. This is
one reason why young males kill themselves in cars so often.

But a ten year old with a shotgun sounds like a script for a horror
movie. This is less than half the age of reliable rationality.

Are these people serious?

Bill

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> Yes, the younger the better as always. The page you referred to earlier says 
> 12 is the minimum, so perhaps there's some confusion between states, or 
> perhaps it's changed recently.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> ________________________________
> From: Alistair McKeough 
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 7:29 AM
> To: Peter Shute
> Cc: Dave Torr; Dimitris Bertzeletos; Birding Australia
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting season- There's an identification 
> test?
>
> Field & Game is encouraging those over 10 to gear up now by passing the test:
>
> " If you are over the age of 10 years and you have an interest in [killing] 
> waterfowl, you may obtain your waterfowl identification certificate right 
> now. Once you have the certificate, keep it safe and record your registration 
> number where it can be found quite easily. In recent years changes to the way 
> WIT's are recorded have created some problems for hunters seeking a current 
> duck hunting license in some areas."
>
> Nothing like encouraging people to gear up as early as 10 for when they can 
> start shooting live animals for sport.
>
>
> On 7 February 2012 07:24, Peter Shute 
> <<>> wrote:
> When the test first came in, people I know who had been duck shooting for 
> years had to buy the training video in order to be good enough to pass the 
> test. I would imagine therefore that they're a lot better at id in flight 
> than they were before, which is a good thing.
>
> The video is called "Ducks in Sight". I've got a vague memory of seeing it 
> for sale at the BOCA shop, so I get the impression it's useful for learning 
> id.
>
> I don't think they're required to ever sit the test again, so just like a 
> drivers' licence, there's nothing stopping people who've forgotten everything 
> they learned from shooting/driving regardless. But the tests do stop those 
> who can't be bothered learning id from ever getting a licence, so I imagine 
> there are far less illegal species shot by mistake than there were before.
>
> How many are shot anyway, I don't know. Those collected by volunteers are 
> probably a small percentage of the total, given how many shooters use private 
> wetlands. I'm guessing enforcement is the problem now, not id skills.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>>  On Behalf Of
>> Dave Torr
>> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 6:34 AM
>> To: Dimitris Bertzeletos
>> Cc: Birding Australia
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting season- There's an
>> identification test?
>>
>> Anyone who wants to drive a car has to pass a test, but the
>> evidence is
>> that it doesn't help some people drive safely. I assume the
>> duck shooting
>> test is likely to be even less of a success!
>>
>> On 7 February 2012 02:35, Dimitris Bertzeletos
>> <<>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I've just learned that there's an identification test that
>> waterfowlers
>> > need to pass before they can shoot in the field. Anyone
>> have any idea how
>> > stringent this is? Evidence suggests not stringent enough...
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > D.
>> >
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