Chris,
 Do you have any ideas on how much data you need to cache?For example  
when you zoom in on the map to street level would you have had to do  
that at home to cache it? I have no idea how to work this out or  
calculate the data required etc.
Any tips?
 Peter - yes the inability of third party apps to run in the background  
is an Apple restriction on developers.
Cheers
Dave
On 27/12/2009, at 12:59 PM, Chris wrote:
 Motion x gps software (about $5) also caches maps, so you can browse  
an intended area of travel while on the home wireless network, then  
when you go there you're not reling on the phone loading maps through  
3G (mobile network).
Battery life is poor on the iPhone so get a car charger in the deal.
 Having ditched my nokia e63 for the iPhone (and this being my first  
ever apple product purchase) I'll never go back to a more traditional  
phone again.
 I could bore you with every little detail of why I prefer iPhone to  
any other phone. If you really wan me to, let me know. In summary, it  
just works and they've designed it to be intuitive. It has a still/ 
video camera and voice recorder too. It'll read PDF and xls. There are  
apps for facebook, flickr, etc. Heck, even google earth is on it.
For Australian coverage, you'll want telstra, no other option.
 For detailed aus maps out of mobile coverage areas I'm sure you'd find  
maps you could buy for the phone.
 Regarding 500 bird mp3s, I'm sure you could fit 500 music CDs on the  
32gb drive on this phone. Tas parks has an application which gives you  
all the stats of their more common natives including mp3s, and a new  
version is due out which will be comprehensive.
 If you're on foot though, and using the iPhone all the time for gps,  
audio, etc, you'll only get a few hours of battery and you can't  
access the battery - ie no buying a second battery.
 Just did a quick search for iPhone microphones and there seem to be  
plent available:
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=iPhone+microphone&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
 This email was written on the iPhone, including doing the google  
search in the middle, copying the URL and coming back to the email and  
pasting it, and it's not too much slower than using the pc. So good I  
rarely check mail on the pc at home any more. Not worth waiting for  
the pc to boot up :)
Chris
 On 27/12/2009, at 11:08 AM, David Stowe <>  
wrote:
Hi Peter,
Like Damian and Russell I also use an iPhone and love it.
 1. Coverage - I recently switched to Telstra 'Next-G' for my trip out  
to Round Hill so that my wife could contact me if needed. Even  
compared to Telstras normal GSM coverage the difference in alot of  
areas is amazing. Check their website for coverage details.
You do pay for it though.
2. No idea about International sorry
 3. I must admit that I would love to know for sure about the gps etc  
too. I use an app called Motion X GPS which is fantastic. It plots  
your course on a map creating a track file that you can then email to  
others/yourself which has a link showing it on Google Maps. Great to  
send my wife while i was away letting her know where i was. Biggest  
downsides are that you have to have the application running in the  
foreground for it to work and it chews the battery ALOT faster. One  
clever thing they did though was create an iPod interface within the  
application so you can access music/bird calls from within the app so  
that the gps tracking keeps going.
It has a number of maps that it can source (including google) and you  
can cache a certain amount but this is where I'm not sure about how  
much you are needing to download etc.
4. I would think Tom Tom for iPhone as Damian suggested would be good  
although it costs $100. You can also get an cradle with an external  
gps which offers superior performance. i have a mate who has it  
(without the external gps) and he is constantly frustrated with it  
telling him to turn after he has passed the street!
5. Perfect for this - i have masses of cds plus all the BOCA cds. You  
can also use an external speaker although i have been impressed with  
the quality of the built in speaker and it's ability to call in small  
birds.
6. No idea
 7. Bird recording software - i also use Birdsight and whilst its a bit  
slower than a notepad it does save another thing to carry.
Hope that helps :)
Cheers
Dave
On 26/12/2009, at 6:45 PM, Peter Marsh wrote:
Dear Birders,
 Knowing that you will all be at a loose end too full of Christmas pud  
to be able to go out birding let me test your tech savvy by asking  
what is the perfect phone for a birder?
 I appreciate that the question goes a bit further than the phone.  
There is also the carrier and software to consider. Therefor the  
answer that I am looking at will necessarily cover these issues.
What I know I want in a phone are the following features :-
1.. As great a coverage within Australia as is possible
2.. As much international coverage as is possible
3.. GPS coverage whether within coverage are or not
 4.. Access to detailed maps of Australian rural areas when out of  
coverage
5.. MP3 player to hold 500+ bird calls
 6.. Sound recording capability ideally with the capacity to use an  
external mike
Possible other wants are :-
1.. ability to load bird recording software
What else should I want in a phone?
 So, what handset do I need, Who should my carrier be, what maps do I  
want, what other software etc, etc.
 Hope responding to this RFI will fill in your post Christmas birding  
lull!
Oh, and may the new year bring many birds into your life.
regards
Peter
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