G'day John,
The common garden variety of domestic Bantam breed in Australia which looks
the most like Red Jungle Fowl is called "Modern Game" I kept them when I was
a kid. Both sexes look very much like their wild counterparts, the females
don't look anything like the male and lay eggs with or without a male bird
present.
The breed name would appear to suggest it may have been bred back from the
true Game varieties, but it does have normal proportions like the wild
variety and lacks the aggression of Fighting Cocks.
There are also true wild species type Jungle Fowls kept in Australia by a
few hard core enthusiasts, but the possibility of accidental release from
that small population is very unlikely. I would be very interested to see
photos of birds from any of the remaining or extinct populations in
Australia if people have any they would like to share.
Cheers Jeff.
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From:
On Behalf Of John Leonard
Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2009 1:54 PM
To: Birding-aus
Subject: Iluka NSW .... Feral Red junglefowl?
I think the big test of feral chicken returning to the Red Junglefowl
state would be what the females look like. With Red Junglefowl I have
observed in Malaysia the males are very upright farmyard-looking
birds, but the females are much duller, smaller and more horizontal,
they almost look like partridges or quail. I suspect that in selecting
for domestic females that lay without fertilization, more
masculine-looking birds have been favoured.
John Leonard
2009/8/9 Jeff Davies <>:
> G'day Carl,
>
> Domestic fighting cocks and there are couple of breeds have ridiculously
big
> legs and can't be confused with Red Jungle Fowl, they are not widely kept.
> There would be more domestic Bantams that look like Jungle Fowl in
Australia
> than fighting cocks.
> I am interested to know location details about the sightings of Jungle
Fowl
> you claim.
>
> Cheers Jeff.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Carl Clifford
> Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2009 12:26 AM
> To: John Hammond
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Iluka NSW .... Feral Red junglefowl?
>
> Hi John
>
> I have sometimes wondered how many generations it would take a
> domestic chook to revert to a Jungle Fowl, be it Red or Green. Whilst
> birding in SE Asia, I have come across several birds which meet the
> criteria for a Jungle Fowl of both colours, but seeing as the
> sightings were fairly close to human habitation I have somewhat
> vacillated over whether to tick them or not. I have seen quite a few
> Fighting Cocks in SE Asian villages which meet most of the criteria
> for a Jungle Fowl, which has made me think am I seeing a Jungle Fowl
> or seeing a domesticated Fighting Cock.
>
> With the prevalence of Cock Fighting in Australia, it makes me wonder,
> are sightings of Jungle Fowl in Australia of a genuine breeding
> populations or escapees?
>
> I would be interested in opinions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
> On 08/08/2009, at 7:11 PM, John Hammond wrote:
>
>
> Hello all.... I was just wondering if any one is aware of any feral
> junglefowl populations around iluka in nsw? I have been staying at
> Yamba for a couple of days and this morning after visiting the iluka
> rainforest drove down to the shark bay picnic ground. As I got out of
> the car I could hear a rooster calling somewhere in the scrub and
> given the distance from any houses and the dense habitat I was quite
> amazed to hear this. After a ten minute search I found myself peering
> through the scrub at one very shy red junglefowl. I don't know if
> people feed these chooks but the one I saw behaved very much like a
> wild bird. As for this wayward roosters genetics I can only say it
> looked nearly identical to the photos I manage to bring up on a google
> search of the species. I can only find reference to feral populations
> on heron and north west island. So my question to anyone in the know
> is could this bird be a legit feral tick? Or has somebodys prized red
> junglefowl gone for an awful long walk? If anything it will go down as
> the most spectacular rooster I've ever seen.....
>
> Johno
>
>
>
>
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