Superb Parrot in the news - Conservation Status

To: "Carl Clifford" <>, "Frank Antram" <>
Subject: Superb Parrot in the news - Conservation Status
From: "storm" <>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:36:40 +1000
I think Frank is correct re Austlii only listing Acts in force. It's been
the subject of some frustration for me on occasion.

In any event it is interesting to see the EPBC being used in what appears to
be a non-party political way (ref Orange Bellied Parrot)


-----Original Message-----
 Behalf Of Carl Clifford
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 8:21 PM
To: Frank Antram
Cc: Birding-Aus
Subject: Superb Parrot in the news - Conservation


The EPBC Act is a right monster, I am glad I don't have to administer
it. I have just spent half an hour going through it, and having had
extensive experience in a regulatory role with a numbers of NSW State
Acts, I would not like to have to hand it up to a Magistrate or Judge
to find their way through it.

Interestingly there no clear definitions for "critically endangered"
or "conservation dependent" apart from referring to the list in
Schedule 1 of the Endangered Species Protection Act 1992. The list in
Sch 1 only gives "Endangered' and "Vulnerable" species. It is a worry
that protected and vulnerable species must be included on a list and
that there is no clear definition of the species statuses as in ESP
Act, which can give a species protection until it makes it way onto a
list. Inclusion onto legislative "lists" can be cumbersome and time
consuming. If the ESP Act has fallen off the Legislative table, so has
the species list, which would mean that no species is protected, as
there is no list extant. Are you sure that the ESP Act has been
rescinded Frank? If an Act is on AUSTLII, it usually means that it is
in force, in my experience.


Carl Clifford

On 12/05/2009, at 6:05 PM,  wrote:

They must be classifications under one of the State laws, Chris?
Under the Federal EPBC Act, the categories of threatened species are:
extinct in the wild;
critically endangered;
conservation dependent.

Also, Carl Clifford mentioned the definition of vulnerable under the
Federal Endangered Species Protection Act 1992 but this legislation no
longer exists - it was superseded by the EPBC Act.

Info on the status of Superb Parrot may be found here:

Frank Antram

-Original message-----
From: Chris Sanderson 
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:19:39 +1000
To: Peter Shute 
Subject: Superb Parrot in the news - Conservation

> Hi Peter,
> The order of "seriousness" of classifications is:
> No concern
> Least threatened
> Vulnerable
> Endangered
> Critcally Endangered
> I believe vulnerable is something along the lines of "likely to go
> extinct
> without active protection of populations and habitat".  Higher
> classifications are more likely to require direct intervention such as
> habitat restoration or captive breeding to avoid extinction.
> Regards,
> Chris
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Peter Shute <>
> wrote:
>> So is "vulnerable" better or worse than "endangered"?  I was
>> assuming it
>> was better, in which case I would have said it was "facing a high
>> risk of
>> becoming endangered" rather than "extinct".  Their wording makes me
>> think Im
>> wrong, and that it's worse than "endangered".
>> Peter Shute
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  [mailto:
>>  On Behalf Of 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:50 PM
>> To: michael norris; Birding-Aus
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Superb Parrot in the news - Conservation
>> Status
>> The definition of 'vulnerable' under the EPBC Act is in Sub-section
>> 179 (5)
>>       A native species is eligible to be included in the vulnerable
>> category at a particular time if, at that time:
>>       (a)     it is not critically endangered or endangered; and
>>       (b)     it is facing a high risk of extinction in the wild in
>> the
>> medium term future, as determined in accordance with the prescribed
>> criteria.
>> The prescribed criteria are in Regulation 7.01.  Links to the Act
>> and the
>> Regulations may be found here
>> Regards
>> Frank Antram
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "michael norris" 
>> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:17:58 +1000
>> To: "Birding-Aus" 
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Superb Parrot in the news - Conservation
>> Status
>>> What does 'Vulnerable' mean these days?
>>> Please, someone, give us the precise definitions of the status of
>>> threatened species in the EPBC Act or the URL for the orders which
>>> contain the criteria.
>>> Best wishes
>>> Michael Norris
>>> 37° 59' S  145° 0' E

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