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Buff-breasted Sandpiper

To: Alex Farias <>
Subject: Buff-breasted Sandpiper
From: John Tongue <>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:37:39 +1100
What a terrible attitude!

Just because you want to see a bird, doesn't give you the right to
trespass on someone else's property, nor to berate another person who has had the fortune to see it. Sure, it might be disappointing that
Chris has had the opportunity to see this bird and you have not (and
maybe the manner in which he reported it raised the possibility of
others being upset, but without knowing the circumstances of Chris'
sightings, you do not know what may be put in jeopardy by him
divulging the location.

If the attitude of some is "twitch at all costs, and hang the rest of you", then I'm glad Chris did not specify where he saw the bird!

He has said that he will give more details if and when he is able, but if this is the response he gets, then I wouldn't blame him for just
keeping any information entirely to himself next time.

Come on, let's have some responsible birding!

John Tongue
Ulverstone, Tas.


On 02/03/2009, at 7:11 AM, Alex Farias wrote:

Hi,

So correct me if I’m wrong, it’s a private property… (Like many where other twtichable rarities show up) and you just don’t want to bother the owner….

Ok, I just not sure that you don’t get pleasure from gripping off others… If you didn’t you would get out of you comfort zone and help
the community.

If you don’t want us to see it, next time there is no need to report to everyone in the list with pictures, etc… only the rarities
committee should know.


I usually a very friendly guy, but lifers are hard to come by this
days, and when a duffer it’s showing off that he saw the third or fourth record of a BBS in Australia, posting pictures and a note:
“by the way folks, I’m the only one allowed to see it, please don’t
ask me where I saw it”.  It’s kind of upsetting.


Regards,
Alex




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From: Chris Barnes <>
To: Chris Sanderson <>; Alex Farias 
<
>; Birding Aus <>
Sent: Sunday, 1 March, 2009 6:55:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Buff-breasted Sandpiper


Thanks Chris,

I was wondering how to tackle this inevitable debate. It’s not a
military area but access to the site is for surveys only at this
stage & carry strict regulations. No viewing areas from public roads exist. As one who has gained the trust of the folk who run it, I am not willing to compromise this. At this stage no access will be
allowed during the working week. If there is the possibility of
getting in later, I will let everyone know when & if I get the go
ahead. I don’t get pleasure from gripping off others & would love everyone who wants to see this bird have a chance at it. It is a
wader tho & at this time of year anything could happen.

Apologies for the anguish this might cause. I know how I’d feel if it were a Nordmann’s Greenshank! I did think twice about reporting it for this reason but suppressing it wouldn’t have been looked
kindly upon either.

Cheers,

Chris.


________________________________

From:Chris Sanderson 
Sent: Sunday, 1 March 2009 10:29 AM
To: Alex Farias; Chris Barnes; Birding Aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Buff-breasted Sandpiper

Alex,

My guess is that Chris has been granted permission to access a
sensitive area (military perhaps?) that no one else is likely to be granted access to for any reason. Knowing where the bird is would
only tempt people to break in so why give them that temptation?

Regards,
Chris
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Tony Russell
<> wrote:
I wish he was kidding but I don't think so.

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Alex Farias
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:15 AM
To: Chris Barnes; Birding Aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Buff-breasted Sandpiper


Chris,

You Kidding, right?

Why it is not twichtable?

rgs
Alex




________________________________
From: Chris Barnes <>
To: Birding Aus <>
Sent: Saturday, 28 February, 2009 6:14:17 PM
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Buff-breasted Sandpiper

Hi all,



This morning had a Buff-breasted Sandpiper in Bundaberg (SEQld) for 2.5 hrs with Nev Cap ell whilst doing a regular count. It was eventually put off by a sea-eagle & has not been seen since. Unfortunately the area has restricted access & the bird will not be twitchable so please don't ask
me for specific site details.



Chris



Ps I have got pictures but contact me if interested rather than send to
the B-Aus list please.

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