House Crows and ticking ethics

To: "'Evan Beaver'" <>
Subject: House Crows and ticking ethics
From: "Tony Russell" <>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:53:14 +1030
Ok, I hadn't considered them part of the discussion, but surely once
even escapes or releases establish viable populations, we have to admit
them to our listings. Hence dear old Starlings, Sparrows, Mynas,
Goldfinches, Greenfinches, Blackbirds etc etc are all now included
because we can't get rid of them and it's foolish to ignore them.


-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Beaver  
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:38 AM
To: Tony Russell
Cc: Alan McBride; Birding Aus
Subject: House Crows and ticking ethics

Not that it matters in any way to me, but there's a hole in your logic
Tony that seems to allow escapees and releases. But, as I've said
before, tick what ever you see fit, it's your list, no-one else
(should) care what's on it.

I however won't be ticking it, and hope that it's destroyed before
slinking off to find the rest of the House Crow secret society, lying in
wait for sufficient numbers to arrive and begin breeding, and fulfil
their ultimate goal of destroying all native avifauna.


On 3/27/08, Tony Russell <> wrote:
My stance is that if the bird is in Oz, no matter how it got here, then
it's tickable, and no amount of contention as to it's mode of travel is


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