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Birds of the world - Recommended english names

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Subject: Birds of the world - Recommended english names
From: "Tim Murphy" <>
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 08:45:03 +1000
I doubt that it will catch on at all. There are already a number of lists
and I, and a number of others use Clements for World Birds and see no
especial need to make the effort to follow them. (We have a tough enough
time keeping up with the lumps and splits as it is. I have studied taxonomy
a bit and see no need to slavishly follow every new book that comes out.

Clements actually died last year but a new edition is coming out. See
http://www.amazon.com/Clements-Checklist-Birds-World/dp/0801445019

For a country list there are local names which are well established and I
would expect to use these for local lists.

If the new Christidis and Boles appears in my (or my children's!) lifetime I
will have to study it and see what the basis of any decision they make is.

Tim Murphy

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 Behalf Of Peter Ewin
Sent: Friday, 4 May 2007 5:58 PM
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Subject: Birds of the world - Recommended english
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Always an interesting process when someone comes up with lists.
The rules should always be consistent (ie standard use of hyphens and
capital letters) so you don't end up with:
Australian Brushturkey
Plumed Whistling Duck
Beach Stone-curlew
Brown Cuckoo-Dove
They list "rules" and then intepret them to meet accepted norms.
They have also been inconsistent within a genus (such as revealed by the
recent discussion on Stone-curlew v Thick-knee) which just seems crazy.

Scientific names are still the key to this sort of process and people will
always argue over this sort of thing. On my quick look through the website I
couldn't see what was the basis for the taxonomy they used (but more recent
than 2003 Howard and Moore Checklist as the Kiwi taxonomy shows).

I will be very interested to see if this is what the new Christidis and
Boles will use. The project is supposed to be for the whole world and not
just England. I think names used locally should have been considered
strongly. Murray Bruce and Dick Schodde were the names from Australia on the
website.

As I say interesting but not certain how well it will catch on (I am certain
the American's will want all "their" birds to be called Gray instead of
Grey)
Cheers,
Peter

>From: 
>To: 
>Subject: [Birding-Aus] Birds of the world - Recommended english names
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 09:45:49 +0800 (WST)
>
>G'day all
>
>The International Ornithological Congress has just updated its list of
>Recommended English Names.
>
>It's available as a download (Excel spreadsheet).
>
>Though some of you might be interested.
>
>http://www.worldbirdnames.org
>
>Cheers
>Steve
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