Re Robins plus

To: "birding aus" <>
Subject: Re Robins plus
From: "Philip A. Veerman" <>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:55:25 +1000
I wonder about this in terms not only of location but of relevance. Of course it is nice for people just to write that they have seen a pink-tufted chat-petrel at 517 km north of Mildurelaide. Sometimes I wonder (if they are for places that I know nothing about) why they choose to mention the pink-tufted chat-petrel and may have forgotten to mention the white-crowned eagle-finch that was also there. As in I might be more interested in the latter. I like it best when someone mentions not just what was where (or even not there) but why they also tell us why they are telling us (as in is this notable or a unusual or what). The regular pelagic trip reports are almost always good examples of providing a context to the lists. Of course we are limited by our willingness to type and read a lot.
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From: Carol Probets <>
To: m("","birding-aus");"> <m("","birding-aus");">>
Date: Wednesday, 16 July 2003 10:35
Subject: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Re Robins plus

While not wanting to carry on a topic that most people are probably sick
of, and certainly not wanting to add to a flame war, I do feel that adding
basic location info is important enough to warrant a bit more defending

For me, it's not necessarily a matter of needing the info in order to jump
into the car and go see the bird. I enjoy reading what people are seeing
and that information becomes all the more meaningful by having a mental
picture of where it is happening. To me it matters very much whether it's
Cairns, Coonamble or Cooper's Creek. It's all part of building up an
understanding of Australian birds and what they are doing where, which in
turn helps me to understand the birds I see around me.

Yes, we could all look up the locations in an atlas, but it takes up enough
valuable time just scanning the messages and reading those of particular
interest, without having to do this. By contrast it only takes 3 keystrokes
for the poster to add the state, or half a dozen extra words to give a
little more detailed info. Then if anyone wants exact access directions
they can of course contact the poster.

I know I've been guilty of forgetting to do this at times. We all make
mistakes, so let's not flame, but a gentle reminder doesn't go astray. Just
my 2 cents worth.



Carol Probets
Blue Mountains NSW
(100km west of Sydney)

Russell wrote:
>I don't know why it's so important to put states into every report
>anyway.  If someone sees a nice bird in Cairns, am I going to be able
>to see it?  Not likely!  So it doesn't matter if it's in Cairns,
>Coonamble or Cooper's Ck.  But if someone posts about a Regent
>Honeyeater in Newstead, or a Satin Bowerbird in Corio, I know where
>they are because they're within reach!  I suppose for travelers the
>extra bit of info is useful, but let's not get our knickers quite so
>tangled about all this.

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