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Curlew Sandpiper:Numbers Flagged

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Subject: Curlew Sandpiper:Numbers Flagged
From: Kym Bennet <>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:30:04 +1100 (EST)
Andrew Stafford

The following is an extract from the Bird Banders
magazine and demonstrates one example of the excessive
actions of bird banders. Nearly all of these banded
and flagged Sanderling have now disappeared, presumed
dead.
Would you like locations and dates of observations.

I suggest that some of you open your eyes a little
more. You will soon see that leg flagging is
responsible for the destruction of large numbers of
waders.



>From the tattler. No 23". April 2000


"Valuable catch of Sanderling

A major catch of 462 Sanderling was made in South
Australia in early March 2000. This is more than twice
the previous highest catch of this species in South
Australia."

 "and 101 from previous visits to South Australia by
the VWSG."




The Sanderling is an uncommon bird in southern
australia and this number is 60%+ of their population.
 Where are these leg flagged Sanderlings now?  Very
few are to be seen. Correspondingly the population of
Sanderling in the area has declined alarmingly since
these birds were flagged. 

This is but one of many examples that can be
demonstrated but alas i have another job. So that will
do for now.


Cheers Kym


PS. Andrew- Early in our wader season corresponds with
July/August/September. I suggest you abide by the
suggested eighth rule of birding-aus.




 --- Andrew Stafford <>
wrote: > Kym Bennet with one T wrote:
> 
> > I have figures from wader research sites that show
> the
> > totals of banded and leg flagged curlew sandpipers
> > being much greater, in the order of 50000 birds. I
> > agree that the total need official (audited)
> > clarification.
> 
> Please - if you have nothing new to add, give it a
> rest! Otherwise, provide
> these figures, along with the citation as to where
> this information is
> available. Failure to do so only muddies the waters
> further. Or is that your
> intention?
> 
> > The banders own leg flagging protocol is a very
> > confused and incomplete document. It needs great
> > improvement. It shows proposed banding totals
> which i can prove
> > have been exceeded.
> 
> So prove it, ie put up or shut up.
> 
> > But we can can research this all we like on the
> net
> > but this is straying from the main point which is
> > clear to many observers who watch waders: That leg
> > flagging small waders is detrimental and does
> > considerably more harm than good.
> 
> No, we need research to show us this. Supposition
> and emotional arguments
> that do not take account of other variables lack
> credibility.
> 
> > This is usually at the end of our
> > wader season after recent activities of banders
> are
> > evident. These birds probably die soon after as i
> have
> > never seen any early in the season when the waders
> > return.
> 
> Apart from the one standing on a solitary broken
> leg, you mean?
> 
> > I watch waders regularly and see red-necked stints
> and
> > curlew sandpipers with two plastic flags and also
> a
> > metal band attached.
> 
> Many other birders watch waders regularly. Has
> anyone else ever bumped into
> Kym on their travels? Apparently there is no listing
> for any "K Bennet" in
> Carnegie, by the way.
> 
> Sorry for "wading" into this again!
> 
> Cheers, AS
> 
> 
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