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Curlew Sandpiper:Numbers Flagged

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Subject: Curlew Sandpiper:Numbers Flagged
From: "Andrew Stafford" <>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:52:02 +1100
Kym Bennet with one T wrote:

> I have figures from wader research sites that show the
> totals of banded and leg flagged curlew sandpipers
> being much greater, in the order of 50000 birds. I
> agree that the total need official (audited)
> clarification.

Please - if you have nothing new to add, give it a rest! Otherwise, provide
these figures, along with the citation as to where this information is
available. Failure to do so only muddies the waters further. Or is that your
intention?

> The banders own leg flagging protocol is a very
> confused and incomplete document. It needs great
> improvement. It shows proposed banding totals which i can prove
> have been exceeded.

So prove it, ie put up or shut up.

> But we can can research this all we like on the net
> but this is straying from the main point which is
> clear to many observers who watch waders: That leg
> flagging small waders is detrimental and does
> considerably more harm than good.

No, we need research to show us this. Supposition and emotional arguments
that do not take account of other variables lack credibility.

> This is usually at the end of our
> wader season after recent activities of banders are
> evident. These birds probably die soon after as i have
> never seen any early in the season when the waders
> return.

Apart from the one standing on a solitary broken leg, you mean?

> I watch waders regularly and see red-necked stints and
> curlew sandpipers with two plastic flags and also a
> metal band attached.

Many other birders watch waders regularly. Has anyone else ever bumped into
Kym on their travels? Apparently there is no listing for any "K Bennet" in
Carnegie, by the way.

Sorry for "wading" into this again!

Cheers, AS



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