At 20:21 02/04/2002 +0800, Marilyn Davis wrote:
 Towards the end of our wader season, I often see recently leg flagged 
waders but not too often are many older flags ever observed. What happens 
to these leg flagged birds is of great concern. Of course there will be a 
few lucky survivors; the banders regard these as significant retraps but 
the question must be answered, where have the majority of flagged birds 
from previous years gone?
 
 I don't understand what you are getting at????  The material used for the 
wader leg flags doesn't fade, so the old flags look the same as the new 
flags.  You need to catch the bird and read the band number to determine 
the age of the bird.  Maybe this is the cause of your incorrect assumption 
that leg flagged birds don't survive????
 Although their migration staging areas may not be known, during migration 
Curlew Sandpipers use "mostly" coastal areas until they arrive in 
Australia.  There has been considerable disturbance and modification along 
the East Asian flyway, but in percentage terms their coastal feeding 
habitat is still largely intact.
 
 I disagree.  From the reports of overseas sightings of leg flagged birds, 
many of these birds are sighted on marsh areas (or found on birds that have 
been caught for food and sold at the markets).  These may be near the 
coast, but many are not on the coast.  Curlew Sandpipers don't just feed 
anywhere on the coast.  The feeding sites tend to be the mouths of rivers, 
etc.  These areas also tend to be key areas for people.  Japan has recently 
reclaimed on important site.  These areas are very far from being intact.
 Besides the whole point of leg flagging is to find where the birds 
stopover.  The most significant Curlew Sandpiper sites have yet to be 
identified.  We don't even know where many spend their time in Australia 
where hopefully there is far less pressure.  That is why the sighting of 
the bird in South Africa is so important.  The possibility exists that the 
missing birds from WA have headed to South Africa for the last year or two 
due to the bad conditions at their normal WA sites.
 There is an urgent need for an independent investigation into the adverse 
impacts of bird banding, particularly "leg flagging" small waders. It 
seems that the Banders won't do it themselves. If a truly independent and 
thorough evaluation of these threatening processes were carried out, then 
we might all feel a little more confident that these research projects are 
not destroying the birds that we all want to protect.
 
 The data is publicly available from the Australian Bird and Bat Banding 
Scheme in Canberra.  We look forward to your summary.
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