Magpie swooping RFI

To: Birding-Aus <>
Subject: Magpie swooping RFI
From: John Gamblin <>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:03:11 -0700 (PDT)
Many sincere thanks Brett,

Well to be honest when I first read your email, my red
hair went redder, my nostrils flared, and the dragon
in me roared, but then I thought about it for a while.
Sympathy reigned supreme on this Vichexian, this came
from me to you. I mean look what you have to put up
with living in thee soon to be most void of natural
conditions state in Australia? never fails to amaze me
how you up there love your condo's, plastic palm trees
and concrete jungles with superwide highways.

What does that have to do with "Magpie Swooping" or to
quote your words birds attacking for want of food or
being fed? I know your very inteligent so I hope I
don't have to truly answer that.

What I have done for many years here in many parts of
Oz ( yep I'm an import but now so very much an Oz ) is
to try and inform people what they have done merely
for them to be them? for a human family unit to exist,
let's say mum, dad and 2.3 kids, the drain on the
local natural resources is huge, massive in fact and
not all humans give back to nature that which they
take out.

So if we think about the needs of all native wildlife?
birds and mammals etc etc what is it that they need to
merely survive? in essence somewhere to comfortably
and safely exist with adequate food for their health
and of their liking.

Clashes come about when two species vie for the same
territory or/and food. Include humans versus wildlife.

Think about what we grow and they used to eat in the
wild before the white man's invasion? how long since
white man lived with mother nature to keep him
company? or are we saying all foods now grown in Oz
are seed imported? I can hear the screams and howls
about gene modified birds already but sadly that's not
that far away?

Why do I feed birds simply because I cannot live with
myself for knowing what I and all humans have robbed
from them. Not only trees and shrubs but my home with
it's cement slab, covers ground where once magpies
would go worm~fishing. Think about the area now
occupied by all human activity. Especially around the
Oz shoreline.

We are in charge of ourselves are we not and can
change outcomes and effects? but still we charge ahead
and wreck the bush, plan to slice whales and penguins
with superfast, super large Catamarrans. Huge balls
and chains flatten so much nowadays it's just not
funny. Try answering a young human why we do that?

Sometimes I think about living with the beaut Doug
Holly miles away from the madness and so called
community! but then the welsh in me stirs and says "Eh
that's giving up Gammo, nah laddie you cannee do

So how do you stop birds swooping and defending
themselves and their young, that's simple inform all
where there young are, warn humans to avoid, because
they were here a long time before humans. Can't humans
read signs?

On the issue of food, and feeding wild animals, if I
was your neighbour and raised copperhead snakes would
you walk onto my property without any shoes, boots or
socks on your feet? then the answer is where a stack
hat when you know it's that time of year because we
are intruding on THERE land.

Hoping I didn't get to rough,
John A. Gamblin
Brett Leis <> wrote:

Hi John,

If you would like to open the topic up for discussion
then I have no objections at all. I will value any
input I get. It was a fairly broad question I had
asked so I didn't want to clog the mailing list.

Thanks for the email.


Do You Yahoo!?
Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger
Birding-Aus is on the Web at
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message
"unsubscribe birding-aus" (no quotes, no Subject line)

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>

The University of NSW School of Computer and Engineering takes no responsibility for the contents of this archive. It is purely a compilation of material sent by many people to the birding-aus mailing list. It has not been checked for accuracy nor its content verified in any way. If you wish to get material removed from the archive or have other queries about the archive e-mail Andrew Taylor at this address: andrewt@cse.unsw.EDU.AU