Re: Raven query.

There were records of Australian Ravens in the City of Bayside,
South-east Melbourne, in the 1980s but since then only suspicions that
some of the wintering birds (when flocks arrive) may, from calls, baggy
throats and wing movements, be ARs.  The summer, breeding, birds are all
apparently LRs even though they are dispersed - not colonial- nesters.

I recorded, on the basis of calls, ARs near Leongatha, Gippsland, in
1993-1995 but no apparent LRs. 

I was pretty sure I saw Forest Ravens around Moggs Creek, near Aireys
Inlet on the coast of the eastern Otways but when I mentioned them to
Pauline Reilly she said she just puts them all down as ravens.

How much genetic work has been done on the LR/AR/FR split ? Are we still
sure they are different species - both biologically and genotypically ?

Michael Norris