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[Birding-Aus] Gilbert White anticipating a modern concept

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Subject: [Birding-Aus] Gilbert White anticipating a modern concept
From: Philip Veerman <>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 05:29:17 +0000

David McDonald wrote a few good pieces on the whole etymology of the “jizz” concept in Canberra Bird Notes several years ago. Probably as good a history on the issue as is useful. As I recall, it was two papers, several years apart.

 

Philip

 

 

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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Gilbert White anticipating a modern concept

 

Probably earlier.  See at pp 113-117 of below

 

http://canberrabirds.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/CBN_41_2_final-for-web.pdf.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 1:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Gilbert White anticipating a modern concept

 

I am sure W.E.Johns had a fine grasp of the concept of jizz (and "jizz" is indeed derived from aircraft identification terminology in WW2, as no doubt Tony was alluding to)

 

 

Kim Sterelny, School of Philosophy, Research School of the Social Sciences, Australian National University, Acton, 0200, ACT, Australia

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2023 1:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Gilbert White anticipating a modern concept

 

That;s how we picked the Spitfires from the Messershmidts in the B of B

 

On Tue, 23 May 2023 at 12:47, calyptorhynchus <> wrote:

I was reading the Natural History of Selbourne recently (as you do) and came across this in a letter of 7 Aug 1778:

 

A good ornithologist should be able to distinguish birds by their air as well as by their colours and shape, on the ground as well as on the wing, and in the bush as well as in the hand. For, though it must not be said that every species of birds has a manner peculiar to itself, yet there is somewhat in most genera at least, that at first sight discriminates them, and enables a judicious observer to pronounce upon them with some certainty. 

 

Our concept of jizz perhaps.

 

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John Leonard

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