3 categories of THREATENED

[Jonny Schoenjahn <>]

Hi all,

to my knowledge, which might be outdated, the following three main categories of THREATENED are international standard, i.e. are used in the IUCN Red List, Action Plan for Australian Birds, and others:

• critically endangered
• endangered
• vulnerable

Near threatened appears to me to be what it says, i.e. nearly but not quite threatened. 'Not quite’ may be for different reasons. The species or population may not quite (yet) fulfil the criteria for, e.g., VU, or because of a lack of knowledge about the species of population concerned. Nevertheless, being classified as near threatened helps to put the species or population on the radar of all involved.

So, I don’t see accounting tricks or cats among pigeons in accepting 3 categories of THREATENED, but admit that I missed the earlier parts of the discussion.

Despite this classification system being widely accepted, South Australia chooses to not follow it. This may be illustrated by the Grey Falcon ("here it comes" I hear you say), which is listed nationally as threatened, category vulnerable (since June 2020, EPBC Act 1999), whereas in South Australia it is classified as Rare. Nevertheless I assume that sooner or later SA will follow suit and adopt the classification system.

Merry Christmas to all, and all the best – lots of it – for the next year,

Jonny

Dr. Jonny Schoenjahn
Perth, Western Australia

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Hmm, how very convenient, thanks for that, good to see accounting tricks are alive and well in Victoria!

Phil Gregory

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On 17 Dec 2020, at 3:16 PM, Martin Butterfield <m("gmail.com","martinflab");" class="">> wrote:

I think John meant this to come to everyone, not just me.  Certainly a point worth sharing.

Martin Butterfield

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From: John Harris <m("gmail.com","wildlifeexperiences");" class="">>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 14:49
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Threatened Birds in Australia
To: Martin Butterfield <m("gmail.com","martinflab");" class="">>

Hi Phil et al,

To put the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons, in Victoria the Advisory List of Threatened Vertebrate Fauna in Victoria (DSE 2013) doesn't consider species that are considered Near Threatened to be threatened by definition, therefore only having 3 categories of threatened status - vulnerable, endangered, critically endangered.

Many of the Vic species fall into the NT category.

Cheers

John Harris

Wildlife and Ecology

Yours in all things "GREEN"

 

John Harris 

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 13:31, Martin Butterfield <m("gmail.com","martinflab");" target="_blank" class="">> wrote:

Yes: but they can easily be filtered out if that is what Phil wants.

Martin Butterfield

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Dave Torr <m("gmail.com","davidtorr");" target="_blank" class="">> wrote:

That I think includes ssp?

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 13:15, Martin Butterfield <m("gmail.com","martinflab");" target="_blank" class="">> wrote:

Phil: disregard my last message: see https://birdlife.org.au/conservation/science/taxonomy and down load the working list  which contains the conservation status.

Martin Butterfield

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https://mallacootaweatherwildlife.blogspot.com/

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 12:45, Phil Gregory <m("gmail.com","oreornis");" target="_blank" class="">> wrote:

I am preparing a talk for the Colombian Bird Fair and urgently need some data on the total of species in each conservation category, which seems to be remarkably opaque on the BirdLife sites and Threatened Bird Network sites. All I need know is how many in each category

How many Critically Endangered CR?

How Many Near Threatened NT ?

How Many Vulnerable VU?

If there is a link to such information I’d love to access it. Can anyone help please? Thanks

Phil Gregory

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