Maybe the Magpies are just sunbaking for the pleasure of it .
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> 3. Australian Magpie "anting" or what? (Philip Veerman)
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> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 16:50:27 +1100
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Australian Magpie "anting"or what?
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> Interesting about the lack of ants! I suspect that there is an honour?s or
> Master?s degree in this, if one could design a way of scientifically
> analysing the behaviour.
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> I remember seeing two magpies in my garden lying on the woodchip path in full
> sun, wings extended and bodies awkwardly on one side. Bills open and heads
> tilted. After a while they got up, closed wings and moved into the shade,
> presumably to cool down. This I believe helps control lice.
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> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, at 11:32 PM, David Clark wrote:
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> I have often seen Magpies lying flat out on the ground. On the occasions
> when my approach caused the Magpie to depart, I have checked the location and
> never once have I seen ants.
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> The common factor with all instances I have observed is full and bright
> sunshine.
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> Cheers
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> David
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> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 9:57 PM Penny Brockman <
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> Sunning?
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> On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, at 5:28 PM,
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> For years I?ve been watching magpies in Blackheath, regardless of the
> temperature, mild or red-hot, lying down in a sort of trance-like state. But
> they are alert. Someone somewhere mentioned that they are ?anting?. Any
> published papers and evidence available on what they are actually doing?
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> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 09:06:29 +1100
> From: calyptorhynchus <>
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> I?ve observed this behaviour over the years and there is usually a
> conspicuous lack of ants around. I suspect it is sunning.
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> John L
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>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 08:45 <> wrote:
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>> Interesting about the lack of ants! I suspect that there is an honour?s
>> or Master?s degree in this, if one could design a way of scientifically
>> analysing the behaviour.
>>
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>> *From:* Birding-Aus <> *On Behalf Of
>> *Penny
>> Brockman
>> *Sent:* Friday, 23 October 2020 1:53 PM
>> *To:* David Clark <>
>> *Cc:* Charles Hunter via Birding-Aus <>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Birding-Aus] Australian Magpie "anting"or what?
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>> I remember seeing two magpies in my garden lying on the woodchip path in
>> full sun, wings extended and bodies awkwardly on one side. Bills open and
>> heads tilted. After a while they got up, closed wings and moved into the
>> shade, presumably to cool down. This I believe helps control lice.
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------
>>
>> Penny Brockman
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, at 11:32 PM, David Clark wrote:
>>
>> I have often seen Magpies lying flat out on the ground. On the occasions
>> when my approach caused the Magpie to depart, I have checked the location
>> and never once have I seen ants.
>>
>>
>>
>> The common factor with all instances I have observed is full and bright
>> sunshine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 9:57 PM Penny Brockman <> wrote:
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>> Sunning?
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>> Penny Brockman
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>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, at 5:28 PM, wrote:
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>> For years I?ve been watching magpies in Blackheath, regardless of the
>> temperature, mild or red-hot, lying down in a sort of trance-like state.
>> But they are alert. Someone somewhere mentioned that they are ?anting?. Any
>> published papers and evidence available on what they are actually doing?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> David Jackson
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> From: "Philip Veerman" <>
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> What I sent last night appears to have not gone through yet. Maybe best just
> to call it sunning when that is what it is and leave the word anting to when
> there are ants. Easy. But they may be connected. This sunning behaviour (and
> certainly not just magpies) often has the birds in a sort of trance like
> behaviour. But then there are other things that will do that to a bird.
> ?hypnotise chooks?. For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i6QIuNS8j8
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> Philip
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> From: Philip Veerman Sent: Friday, 23 October,
> 2020 10:16 PM To: Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus]
> Australian Magpie "anting"or what?
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> I think what has happened here is transfer of words. It is real sometimes
> that birds put ants on their plumage. And suggested for these reasons. So
> given the name ?anting?. Sunning behaviour like that can involve the birds in
> doing similar looking things. Bird behaviour books can tend to describe these
> perhaps only slightly related things, together. So the word anting has sort
> of spread into behaviours that maybe look similar or maybe have similar
> benefits. Or that is my idea.
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> Philip
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> From: Birding-Aus On Behalf Of
> Penny Brockman Sent: Friday, 23 October, 2020 1:53 PM To: David Clark
> Cc: Charles Hunter via Birding-Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Australian Magpie "anting"or what?
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> I remember seeing two magpies in my garden lying on the woodchip path in full
> sun, wings extended and bodies awkwardly on one side. Bills open and heads
> tilted. After a while they got up, closed wings and moved into the shade,
> presumably to cool down. This I believe helps control lice.
>
>
>
> --------------------
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> Penny Brockman
>
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>
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>
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020, at 11:32 PM, David Clark wrote:
>
> I have often seen Magpies lying flat out on the ground. On the occasions
> when my approach caused the Magpie to depart, I have checked the location and
> never once have I seen ants.
>
>
>
> The common factor with all instances I have observed is full and bright
> sunshine.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 9:57 PM Penny Brockman <> wrote:
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> Sunning?
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> Penny Brockman
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> On Wed, 21 Oct 2020, at 5:28 PM, wrote:
>
> For years I?ve been watching magpies in Blackheath, regardless of the
> temperature, mild or red-hot, lying down in a sort of trance-like state. But
> they are alert. Someone somewhere mentioned that they are ?anting?. Any
> published papers and evidence available on what they are actually doing?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
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> David Jackson
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