Much the same as making things fool proof, that only attracts idiots.
On Sunday, January 14, 2018, Martin Butterfield <>
wrote:
> In my area I use generalized descriptions of the sites of unusual birds on
> private property to try to avoid such a situation. That does at least keep
> people out of the paddocks and gardens. If anyone desperately needs finer
> detail they can ask me and their case for access will be considered in
> discussion with the relevant landholder.
>
> I heard from one landholder that birders spent some time driving up and
> down a nearby road looking for some birds which bewildered me (and the
> landholder) as I had said that the birds were not visible from the road. I
> had thought it worth mentioning the presence of the birds as a general note
> that they were in the area and other known sites should be checked.
>
> I think this proved a comment made some years ago that "The problem with
> making things idiot-proof is that they keep making bigger idiots."
>
> A. N Other Martin
>
> Martin Butterfield
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 13 January 2018 at 08:27, Tony Russell <> wrote:
>
>> If it was my property I'd get the cops in. I know the place, been there a
>> few times, but have never ventured into the driveway, it's obviously
>> private. If anyone knows who some of these trespassers are lets name them
>> and shame them.
>>
>> On 12 January 2018 at 19:41, Carl Clifford <>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > This doesn’t surprise me.
>> >
>> > On Friday, January 12, 2018, martin cachard <>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > *** UNETHICAL BIRDERS STRIKE AGAIN !!!***
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > hello all,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > there have been a number of briders since Sunday behaving VERY poorly
>> at
>> > > this site where the lone adult Red-rumped Swallow has been residing
>> along
>> > > with a minimum of 30-odd Barn Swallows.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > THIS MUST STOP... NOW please!!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > the resident who owns the property adjacent to and below the rig of
>> > > powerlines has told me face to face last eveing while I was there at
>> > 5:30pm
>> > > of some very disturbing, unethical and illegal displays of poor form.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > this even includes the culprits, who are DEFINITELY birders, walking
>> the
>> > > full 50 mtr length of his
>> > >
>> > > PRIVATE driveway without asking for his permission, just to get a
>> > 'better'
>> > > look.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > some of these individuals have parked themselves after such a walk
>> within
>> > > 5 mtrs of his home!!! some have even sat there and waited for the
>> bird/s
>> > to
>> > > show, often unsuccessful in seeing the red-rump...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > this is ILLEGAL activity and it's called trespassing. PLEASE STOP IT
>> !!!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > the best way to see these birds is to view them from the road side of
>> the
>> > > fenceline that runs parallel with Capt Cook Hwy, and to do this very
>> > early
>> > > after sunrise, or after 5:15pm.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > more on this later...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > thank you,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > martin cachard,
>> > >
>> > > solar whisper wildlife cruises,
>> > >
>> > > daintree river.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > & trinity beach, cairns.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of
>> > > martin cachard <>
>> > > Sent: Friday, 5 January 2018 2:27 PM
>> > > To:
>> > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] ONE RED-RUMPED SWALLOW with+/-20 Barn
>> Swallows
>> > > at Lower Daintree FNQ yesteday
>> > >
>> > > Hello all,
>> > >
>> > > the lone Red-rumped Swallow is still here on the very same wires
>> where I
>> > > first found it on Thurs 21/12/17.
>> > >
>> > > I was checking out the site from 5:15pm-6pm yesterday, and it was
>> nice to
>> > > see it still there - I was beginning to think that it had moved on
>> > > elsewhere having not seen it for about a week.
>> > >
>> > > Evidently, it's been there the whole time, and I had just missed it,
>> and
>> > > it was most likely on the wing nearby at the other times this past
>> week
>> > > that I had checked for it.
>> > >
>> > > it seems very settled, and I would expect/hope it to stay there with
>> the
>> > > other swallows and martins for about another month.
>> > > well, hopefully anyway!
>> > >
>> > > from memory, last season the 30+ Barn Swallows departed the Newell
>> Beach
>> > > site sometime mid-late Feb, so hopefully a similar departure date may
>> > occur
>> > > again this season with the Barns, and the Red-rump follows suite.
>> > >
>> > > well, hopefully...??!!
>> > >
>> > > I think it's pretty likely these Barns would be the same individuals
>> as
>> > > last season, as regular checks of the 2017 Newell Beach site have
>> still
>> > > revealed no Barns at all.
>> > >
>> > > but having said that, now is about the time of January that we got the
>> > > Barns arriving at Newell Beach last season, so who knows, maybe there
>> is
>> > > still more Barns (& hopefully, more Red-rumps too!!) to arrive in the
>> > > coming days...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > last evening's total swallow count perched on the wires at the site
>> was:
>> > > 1 Red-rump, adult;
>> > > 14 Barn, adults, & imms/juvs;
>> > > 4 Welcome, adults;
>> > > 2 Tree Martin, adults;
>> > > 19 Fairy Martin, adults, & juvs.
>> > >
>> > > cheers for now,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > martin cachard,
>> > >
>> > > solar whisper wildlife cruises,
>> > > daintree river,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > & trinity beach, cairns
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