Thanks Peter,
No I didn’t realise that the email was not to whole group, will watch out
for that next time, pretty new to this list, thanks for letting me know. If
I send this to the group as well by specifying it in the To section it may
work, will try that.
We have the rifle sight on the camera on the tripod so get most of the
advantages that way but it would help with that awful situation when you
are dancing around in frustration as the cameraman just cannot find the
bird! And my directions are not working! Usually when you have a new bird
too. And I have the advantage if he finds the bird, once you see the bird
in the viewscreen it is easier to get it in the bins.
Cheers Madelon
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 at 10:33 am, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> A scope is just higher magnification than binoculars, usually at least
> double, but often quadruple or more. Only useful when you need a closer
> look, and mostly used for waders because they sit still long enough.
> Sometimes people use them on birds in trees, but often they're moving
> around too much.
>
> You need a tripod with a scope because they're not much use unless they're
> held steady, and they're hard to aim without one. A big advantage is that
> you can aim it, then let another person have a look. You can't do that with
> binoculars, unless you've put them on a tripod.
>
> Maybe next time you run into someone using a scope, you could ask for a
> look through it. That would help you make up your mind.
>
> By the way, you replied just to me, not the whole list. Not sure if that
> was intentional. Others on the list might have more information for you.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MADELON LANE
> > Sent: Monday, 18 December 2017 10:18 AM
> > To: Peter Shute <>
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] A great day's birding
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> > Like Carl we do not have a scope and wonder what they are better for? I
> > imagine when you are at a relatively fixed point and want to look at far
> off
> > waders etc. As a couple we have me with the binoculars and Trev with the
> > camera so do most of our new and difficult IDs back home in the evening.
> We
> > cover quite a lot of distance sometimes and the extra weight would need
> to
> > be useful, or we would certainly benefit from getting better at lying in
> wait
> > for birds and maybe the scope would help with that? Or would we end up
> > stuffing around with equipment too much when we should be continuing to
> > improve our field observation skills? Trevor has a saying that if we
> didn’t get a
> > photo we didn’t see it, which keeps us honest on new birds but raises the
> > bar on things like Button Quail (none so far!).
> > Cheers Madelon
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 at 7:37 am, Peter Shute <
> > <> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well done, Carl. I agree that most of us rely on others to see
> birds,
> > and hopefully help others in turn (not a pun).
> >
> > So why don't you have your own scope?
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Birding-Aus
> > <> ] On Behalf
> > > Of Carl Weber
> > > Sent: Sunday, 17 December 2017 7:41 PM
> > > To: <
> > aus.org>
> > > Subject: [Birding-Aus] A great day's birding
> > >
> > > I saw the Aleutian Terns at Old Bar on Friday. It was a great
> day's
> > birding,
> > > more so because it was my 600th bird, 17 years in the making; the
> > first 500 in
> > > 9 years and 8 years to go from 500 to 600. It took a little
> skill, a deal
> > of
> > > persistence, and a modicum of luck.
> > >
> > > Above all, it was done with the help of a lot of people,
> starting with
> > the
> > > people who run the sightings websites, and the people who
> > generously
> > > provide information to them. There are the birders who give
> > directions on
> > > site, and those who take time out to point out to
> sight-challenged
> > birders like
> > > me, just where in the tree the subject bird is hiding. Thanks to
> the
> > birders
> > > who invite us to look into their scope to see the rare bird that
> is in
> > its sights.
> > > (They never ask me why don't I have my own scope.) Thanks to the
> > people
> > > who run pelagics (well done Roger) and are patient with those of
> us
> > who
> > > stagger across the deck and are pleased to simply get a bird in
> our
> > binns, let
> > > alone ID it. Thanks to the professional guides who share their
> > knowledge
> > > with such enthusiasm and go beyond the call of duty to help find
> > the bird
> > > (Chook C).
> > >
> > > Back to Old Bar on Friday. It was a fun day in a picturesque
> setting -
> > the
> > > weather was kind, cool but no rain. Everyone had a smile. We were
> > all
> > > conspirators doing something out of the ordinary, something that
> > we
> > > understood, but many would not: taking a day off work to see a
> > bird; driving
> > > 1500 km overnight, or simply walking fully dressed with cameras,
> > binoculars,
> > > telescope, and tripods for 1 km along a secluded beach.
> > >
> > > Finally the views of the terns were great. I even saw terns in
> flight. I
> > can't
> > > promise to in future always tell the difference between a common
> > tern and
> > > an Aleutian, but I will know not to jump to conclusions.
> > >
> > > Carl Weber
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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