Ground Butcherbird doesn’t fit. Ground Thrush and Ground Parrot are OK,
because those species are only off the ground when they are flushed. Aus
Maggies spend a lot of time in trees and in the air defending their territories.
If you wanted to give them a butcherbird moniker, it would make more sense to
call them “Great Butcherbird” to reflect their size …
Regards, Laurie.
On 20 Jan 2017, at 7:56 am, Martin Butterfield <> wrote:
> But much of the time we see Magpies they are in trees.
>
> Given that every form of Australian sport that allows black and white strip
> calls the team the Magpies (usually with the supporters of every other team
> in the competition putting a few choice adjectives and participles in front
> of it) I'd say the chances of change to Butcherbird are thin.
>
> However, given the Australian propensity for shortening words with more
> than about 6 letters, the idea of the Collingwood Butchers does have some
> appeal.
>
>
>
> Martin Butterfield
> http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 20 January 2017 at 08:43, Greg and Val Clancy <> wrote:
>
>> Well said Geoff. Now lets try to change the Australian Magpie to 'Ground
>> Butcherbird' now that it is in the genus Cracticus - it still is isn't it???
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Greg
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>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Ryan
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:32 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Willy Fantails
>>
>>
>> Surely it is more sensible to change anachronistic and confusing common
>> names even if it upsets our possessive addiction to those names in common
>> use.
>>
>> I know several people who still insist on calling the Australian
>> Black-necked Stork a Jabiru. The up-coming generation of birders will not
>> thank us oldies who refuse to adopt sensible common names. I grew up
>> calling White-faced Herons - 'Blue Cranes'; Black-faced Cuckoo Shrikes -
>> 'Bluejays'; Rufous Whistlers - 'Eechongs' and still have trouble not
>> calling Magpie Larks - 'Peewees'. I am glad more appropriate and less
>> confusing common names have been adopted for these species.
>>
>> Common names listed in Field Guides and species lists are not just used by
>> parochials but by international birders - the less confusing and ambiguous
>> the better.
>>
>> I'll probably be using the name Willy Wagtail up until the day I die but
>> hope that the more sensible choice of Willy Fantail has replaced Willy
>> Wagtail on the adopted lists of common names.
>>
>> Geoff
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