Not in Tassie! ;)
John Tongue
Devonport, Tas.
> On 19 Jan 2017, at 10:19 PM, Charles <> wrote:
>
> Just adding some praise for the bird...
>
> What other bird covers the entire Australian map in terms of range?
>
> Love seeing it no matter where I am in Aus.
>
> Great personality.
>
> My kids also do the Willie Wagtail dance.
>
> Have missed most of this post (so apologies if I am repeating) but the new
> guide "Birds of the Indonesian Archipelago Greater Sundas and Wallacea" lists
> it as Willie Fantail.
>
> It has (in the somewhat unfair brief description) AN (Alternative Names)
> Willie Wagtail.
>
> There are many, many name changes across many species in the new guide that I
> have seen previously. A little confusing to be honest.
>
> However there has been one expensive guide available for the entire the
> region for many years. So this guide is worth purchasing.
>
> Cheers,
> Charles Hunter
>
>> On 19 Jan 2017, at 6:34 PM, Andrew Bell <> wrote:
>>
>> HBW Alive used Willie Wagtail - which is a relief :)
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 19 Jan. 2017, at 4:25 pm, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can't imagine the name change being widely accepted no matter how logical
>>> it is!
>>>
>>> On 19 Jan 2017 5:12 PM, "Wedderburn Birding" <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's "Willie Fantail" in the Indonesian field guide with the note that an
>>>> alternative name is Willie Wagtail, which after all is a far better name as
>>>> it's not a wagtail.
>>>>
>>>> The field guide also refers to some new species and proposed splits, such
>>>> as
>>>> Sumatran Scops Owl, some of which haven't been accepted by any of the
>>>> current taxonomies. Birdtourasia already uses the new names and proposed
>>>> splits for their checklists.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Birding-Aus On Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Frank O'Connor
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2017 4:04 PM
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Willy Fantail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Was it Willy Fantail or Willie Fantail?
>>>>
>>>> There was suspicion that these names in the new Indonesian field guide by
>>>> James Eaton et al. were what was going to be adopted by HBW / BLI. This has
>>>> just been released but I don't have access to it. And since BirdLife
>>>> Australia follows this, that we might be affected. I think BA chose HBW /
>>>> BLI partly because of their affiliation with BirdLife International and
>>>> largely because they thought the list would be far more stable than say
>>>> IOC.
>>>>
>>>> There has already been problems with Hooded Dotterel rather than Hooded
>>>> Plover.
>>>>
>>>> The common names go before BA's English Names Committee which I am part of.
>>>> I cannot see any chance that we would accept Willie (or
>>>> Willy) Fantail! I think quite a few people on the ENC would go apoplectic!
>>>> A
>>>> bit like telling the American to change American Robin to American Thrush.
>>>>
>>>> Another that may come up is White-quilled Honeyeater, a split from
>>>> Blue-faced Honeyeater across northern Australia. Not certain where this
>>>> name
>>>> came from. This split hasn't even been proposed for IOC yet.
>>>>
>>>>
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