Just adding some praise for the bird...
What other bird covers the entire Australian map in terms of range?
Love seeing it no matter where I am in Aus.
Great personality.
My kids also do the Willie Wagtail dance.
Have missed most of this post (so apologies if I am repeating) but the new
guide "Birds of the Indonesian Archipelago Greater Sundas and Wallacea" lists
it as Willie Fantail.
It has (in the somewhat unfair brief description) AN (Alternative Names) Willie
Wagtail.
There are many, many name changes across many species in the new guide that I
have seen previously. A little confusing to be honest.
However there has been one expensive guide available for the entire the region
for many years. So this guide is worth purchasing.
Cheers,
Charles Hunter
> On 19 Jan 2017, at 6:34 PM, Andrew Bell <> wrote:
>
> HBW Alive used Willie Wagtail - which is a relief :)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 19 Jan. 2017, at 4:25 pm, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>>
>> Can't imagine the name change being widely accepted no matter how logical
>> it is!
>>
>> On 19 Jan 2017 5:12 PM, "Wedderburn Birding" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's "Willie Fantail" in the Indonesian field guide with the note that an
>>> alternative name is Willie Wagtail, which after all is a far better name as
>>> it's not a wagtail.
>>>
>>> The field guide also refers to some new species and proposed splits, such
>>> as
>>> Sumatran Scops Owl, some of which haven't been accepted by any of the
>>> current taxonomies. Birdtourasia already uses the new names and proposed
>>> splits for their checklists.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Birding-Aus On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Frank O'Connor
>>> Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2017 4:04 PM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Willy Fantail
>>>
>>>
>>> Was it Willy Fantail or Willie Fantail?
>>>
>>> There was suspicion that these names in the new Indonesian field guide by
>>> James Eaton et al. were what was going to be adopted by HBW / BLI. This has
>>> just been released but I don't have access to it. And since BirdLife
>>> Australia follows this, that we might be affected. I think BA chose HBW /
>>> BLI partly because of their affiliation with BirdLife International and
>>> largely because they thought the list would be far more stable than say
>>> IOC.
>>>
>>> There has already been problems with Hooded Dotterel rather than Hooded
>>> Plover.
>>>
>>> The common names go before BA's English Names Committee which I am part of.
>>> I cannot see any chance that we would accept Willie (or
>>> Willy) Fantail! I think quite a few people on the ENC would go apoplectic!
>>> A
>>> bit like telling the American to change American Robin to American Thrush.
>>>
>>> Another that may come up is White-quilled Honeyeater, a split from
>>> Blue-faced Honeyeater across northern Australia. Not certain where this
>>> name
>>> came from. This split hasn't even been proposed for IOC yet.
>>>
>>>
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